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ok this one is for all you thinkers out there, how do you do a stunt in which two people jump out of a window, glass and all, but with them not actually jumping out(the shot of them coming out doesn't show the window, i just need to know if anyone knows of something we can throw as they jump to look like shattered glass thats safe, and also the sound, how do you do that)

 
Posted : 12/11/2005 1:41 am
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The sound is done in post production - not on the set. Break up several glass bottles, put this broken glass in a box, set up your microphone, start recording and throw the glass on the ground.

For production - believe it or not, ice works just fine. Sure, you can't move in to a tight close up but to do the effect you mention here, it's great - the sound really sells it! I've used it dozens of times. If you have Nightmare on Elm Street 5, you can see the very first time I tried using ice for glass. Right at the end of chapter 6 when the guy flies through the window of his truck and lands next to the swimming pool.

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Posted : 12/11/2005 3:53 am
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To be honest, if you have access to a decent particle effects program, it may be easier to add the 'glass' in post these days.

 
Posted : 12/11/2005 11:31 am
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I guess I'm getting old. I suppose it's inevitable that everything I learned about making movies is going to go digital. When I was making monsters out of foam and latex and armatures and making them move by puppeteering and wires, I always knew that someday there would be an easier, better way of doing it.

But I never thought I'd see the day when a particle effects program would be easier than throwing a handful of ice on the ground.

I guess it's time to slip back into my rocking chair, pull the shawl around my legs and smoke my cigar while saying, "When I was a boy..."

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Posted : 12/11/2005 4:08 pm
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Depends on the angle: by 'jump' I was thinking they'd be shooting up from the ground at people jumping from a high window. If it's a normal ground-floor window where you'll see the 'glass' close up then ice would certainly be better, but if it's falling with them from a high window and dropping on the ground, I'd add it in post for simplicity and safety.

I've been playing with Digital Fusion lately and I have to admit I'm amazed at how easy a lot of fancy effects are these days. For example, if you don't like the sky in your shot there's really no need to wait for the right weather anymore, you can just shoot and replace it in post...

Oh, and I'd have to add that I still generally prefer latex puppets to CGI monsters, CGI on that scale is rarely as convincing.

 
Posted : 12/11/2005 4:40 pm
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