The CCDs are only 540 lines so it doesn't have a real 1080 line signal to start with, and it records to expensive solid state memory cards rather than tape. Some people like it, but I think HDV is a better choice myself.

What about with artifacts, and also, there is no HDV yet within that price range that does 1080 24p. (that im aware of, if so, enlighten me). Im looking to get a camera that is under 10,000 that is true high definition (or the closest damn thing to it.)

-Bryce

I might be 18, but watch out, everyone has to start somewhere. I'm just starting a bit faster and bigger. 🙂

Dude. The HVX200 is like my all time fav camera. IT IS SO TIGHT!! It records 1080p at 4:2:2, while HDV records 1080i at 4:1:1. I'd say either go Panasonic HVX200 or JVC HD100. Also be sure to get a Redrock Micro M2 if you're making films. It shoots your production value up sky high!

The HVX200 CCDs are 960x540, and it has a lower resolution than any of the competitive HDV cameras. You don't even have a 4:2:2 signal in 1080p to record, because you don't have enough pixels on the CCDs to produce one.

That's not to say it doesn't work for some people, but it's hardly as simple a choice as you make out.

Ok then, so what kind of camera should i get? IM at that stage where i need to start getting nitty gritty and pick out a camera that is going to work really well and give me as darn close to 1080 24p as i can get.

-B

I might be 18, but watch out, everyone has to start somewhere. I'm just starting a bit faster and bigger. 🙂

The Sony V1 and Canon XHA1 both do 1080p/24, at least in the US versions.

Here's an XHA1 vs HVX200 review with comparison pictures, but note that it's a Panasonic fan-site, so they talk down the limitations of the HVX200:

http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/xha1/

Compare the battleship images, for example:

The aliasing of the antennae on the ship dramatically demonstrates the lower resolution of the HVX200. However, the XHA1 image also shows chromatic abberation in the lens which all Canon HDV cameras seem to suffer from.

So, as I said, it's not a simple choice. But for resolution and ease of use, I'd still pick HDV.

Ok, so i Guess this is where I need the input from all of you people out there that actually know the toys and have played with them. I want to know what you all think I should get, most likely two of. I would like to know what camera it is and WHY you would consider that one. IM looking from HD and Professional level, not a 20 thousand dollar camera, more or less around the 5 thousand range. And just to let you guys know, you guys directly effect what I do in my company, so I really do appreciate all the help and support I get from all of you!

-Bryce

I might be 18 **(just turned 19 April 4th)**, but watch out, everyone has to start somewhere. I'm just starting a bit faster and bigger. 🙂

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Originally posted by MarkG

The Sony V1 and Canon XHA1 both do 1080p/24, at least in the US versions.

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The Euro version of the XHA1 has a 25p shooting mode instead of the 24p, which I assume is to optomise it for PAL Televisions? Correct me if I'm wrong on that, I'm still a little shaky on my digital video specs.

yes, the 25p and 50p version of the frame rates are for pal shooting for europe and other countries over there. 24p, 30p, 60i all of those are american.

I might be 18 **(just turned 19 April 4th)**, but watch out, everyone has to start somewhere. I'm just starting a bit faster and bigger. 🙂

I believe all semi-pro '24p' cameras shoot 25p in Europe... it's the only sane way to fit progressive images into a 25fps data stream.

so then, what camera do you guys reccommed?

I might be 18 **(just turned 19 April 4th)**, but watch out, everyone has to start somewhere. I'm just starting a bit faster and bigger. 🙂

I've used one of these for a couple of jobs and can't really fault it. As mentioned you do get a reduced frame size but for the money what do you guys want?!!

There are some great features like being able to record in so many formats, the over and under cranking options, focus assist, SDI out-great for rostrum work, the pre-record facility whereby the camera is always recording, so if something happens in front of the camera and it wasn't 'recording' no problem, just save what it captured anyway!

OK the P2 cards are steep, but getting cheaper all the time. From our Panasonic rep we can get 2 x 8gb cards for under a grand. 16gb cards on the horizon. The time saved with the instant transfer and keeping the whole thing within the digital domain is worth it. My only criticism was the fixed lens which although a lieca, has issues. Also being a smallish camera it's button city, with instances of the same button doing dual roles.

For the money it's the best camera out there, we're about to buy 8 for our department to use in animation systems.

Bryce - only you can make the decision!

Do research (like you are doing) get opinions then take responsibility for the decision you make.

No one with any real integrity is going to say only one camera is better - all have their pluses and minuses. What they should do and are doing here is telling you what those are and letting you make an informed decision.

If you want to direct you better get use to make decisions and taking responsibility for them.

** If its worth making, it's worth making properly. damn it!**