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(@henry701)
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I'm gonna start filming on location (outdoors) in summer. I started to practice already, you know how to move my camera right and the actors still need to learn their big stunts. So I decided i would make a short film about how I made the movie.
But when I watched what I've filmed there was a big sound problem. The further away the person that was talking is standing the weirder the sound was, it was kinda like a echo or something, this as really buggin me so if any of you guys know a microphone that you can hook up to the mini DV and hold over the person or maybe under their costume?

(I'm using a MiniDV, I try to have the lowest budget possible, dont wonna go high tech)

H.A.

 
Posted : 23/02/2007 5:03 pm
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There are thousands of miniDV cameras out there. If your camera doesn't have a microphone input you're out of luck. You will have to record sound with the on camera mic or buy a seperate recorder. If your camera does have a mic input, you're in luck!

What you're looking for is a good shotgun mic. That in itself is a generic term that means any long barreled mic. You want a good condenser (externally powered) mic with a ?lobar? pick up pattern to put on your boom pole. Lobar pick up means the mic focuses its audio pick up to a narrow area. This is why you want to use a boom pole to get the mic as close the the actor as possible - you?ll get clean dialogue tracks with less ambient noise.

There are three main suppliers of shotgun mics:

?url? http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/?/url?
Sennheiser is the mic most used by professional sound recordists. They are expensive and worth it. Check out the ME-66 and the ME-67.

?url? http://www.audio-technica.com/?/url?
Audio-Technica makes great mic?s and they?re cheaper. Check out the AT835b.

?url? http://www.azdencorp.com/?/url?
I?ve never used Azden mic?s. They?re inexpensive but I?ve don?t hear too many good things about them.

A good mic is an investment. It will last longer than your camera - why skimp?

The further away the mic is from the actors, the higher the volume needs to be. The higher the volume, the more ?noise? you get. Your goal is to have a very high signal to noise ratio - more signal (the dialogue) less noise (the background). Even a very good, expensive Sennheiser mounted on the camera will pick up a lot of background ambiance because it?s far away from the actors.

So you need a boom pole. This can be as simple as a painters pole with a microphone shock mount on it - or a 3 or 4 section, expandable Carbon Fiber, Graphite Fiber or Aluminum boom pole. The lighter the pole the better. Expandable is also very convenient. A pole that?s a fixed six or eight feet (painters pole) can pose problems if you?re shooting in a small space like a bathroom or small apartment or if the boom operator needs to be twelve to fifteen feet away to be out the the lights.

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Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

 
Posted : 23/02/2007 6:27 pm
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Thx, I just found out that I have a microphone input?:0?(it was hidden in the back?:D?) I'll try to get the best mic i can get, thx for the help!

H.A.

 
Posted : 24/02/2007 4:17 pm
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Why do some websites never put the prices on? I need something around ?30 for a mic but i dont know how much they cost.

 
Posted : 25/02/2007 9:01 am
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Try eBay. A lot of companies sell through eBay these days. It's not all used goods and it is a good way to figure out the going rate for some stuff.

RJSchwarz
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Posted : 25/02/2007 8:03 pm
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if you want a nice mic its gonna be more than 100

H.A.

 
Posted : 28/02/2007 1:21 am
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i bought a cheap one from ?url? http://www.jessops.com/?/url?and it was surprisingly good. But yes for good quality you are looking certainly over ?100. But the one from there was ok for smaller tasks.

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Posted : 28/02/2007 5:48 pm
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