This may not be the best place to ask, but I'm sure it will be noticed by Brian, CI or someone else with experience.
I live/work in midtown Manhattan, and every few weeks, there is a location shoot taking up a couple of blocks of Manhattan streets. In my area (Midtown East), most often, it is 'Gossip Girl', although every once in a while, there are some major feature productions.
Earlier today, I walked through one of those, with the entire city block lined by those "Haddad's" trailers (talent, wardrobe, make-up, etc), grip trucks, generators, etc. Half way down the block, there was a well-stocked long craft service table.
So, here is my question: on a shoot like this (an active city block), how do the craft service people know who's crew/talent and who's just a passer-by New Yorker? As I was walking by, I didn't notice any conspicuous identifying element on anyone mingling about. Is there any specific person responsible for this level of security (preventing passers by from lifting something small, but of value)?
Hello Vasic,
I can only assume (because I was not there) that if you say nobody was on watch that one of the following possibilities is what they did to protect their stuff:
1) they had security cameras operating
2) they security coded items
3) they had alarms set
4) they relied on they public to say something
5) they minimised risks and made it obvious so if anything was taken everyone would know and could alert authorities
6) some one not involved with the project a reasonable distance away ready to apprehend or dhase theifs
7) more than one of the above
I hope this helps you find your answer
Eledmondo
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Well, for one, you'd get to know people on a shoot. Or at least be able to recognize them. After all, of all the people on set, the craft service (if they're actively serving) would meet more people than anyone else.
I haven't been on enough "big" shoots to say much more though. Hopefully one of the other experienced guys will pick this up.
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Act like a duck, walk like a duck.
I've been on both sides of this.
From the outside take whatever you want from CS and if asked, say you're an extra. Nobody ever gets to know or care about the extras.
From the inside, if you're cool, we won't care that you're mooching off the Prod Co's crafty budget.
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For the most part, Craft Service people know who the crew is and who isn't. In general, MOST crew generally wear clothing that is unlike the standard generic "non-combatant" and/or they are wearing some sort of tool belt or walkie-talkie. Just general attitude sets a fatigued crew member apart from a curious lookie-loo so Craftie will know most of the time.
Plus, MOST "non combatants" wouldn't be so bold as to try to scam anything from the table. For the most part, Extras and their movement and placement is controlled by a slew of ADs and PAs so they DON'T wander away or to the crew Craftie table. Extras should have their own table set up in the holding area, wherever that is and they'll know it and know not to visit the cast/crew table. So, anyone who doesn't look like a crew member won't usually get away with getting that close to a set in the first place, much less the Craft Service table.
On some productions, particularly at the beginning of the shoot, the crew will be issued some kind of badge and most will wear them for a while until everyone (including Craftie) gets to know who is part of the regular crew.
Brian Dzyak
Cameraman/Author
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Brian Dzyak
Cameraman/Author
IATSE Local 600, SOC
http://www.whatireallywanttodo.com
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I've been asking this question in various forms since I've come here.
BTW, a little OT, but on-location filming in LA jumped 37% in December 2010, compared with the same month a year earlier. This is because California is bringing its tax structure in line with the other states.
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A 37% increase is impressive. Jerry Brown has just come in, and he is promising to cut spending, but I don't know if he will raise taxes, as he is also promising. That said, California is not out for the count yet.
I'm beginning to look more and more towards LA and SF, as opposed to NYC.
And that jump in local production has really helped people like me. It's nice to be working.
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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)
We'll be in a slow recovery, so hang on to whatever you have, at least for the next year or two. I hope, for California's sake, that Jerry can do what Arnold cannot.
Jerry has the "only Nixon can go to China" thing going for him in that the Democrats in Sacramento and the Unions will trust him. That doesn't mean he'll be able to deal with them, nobody likes to see pensions cut, but it means he has a chance. Arnold had the bully pulpit and he stopped using it some time ago, I still don't know why he went up for reelection except perhaps pride.
RJSchwarz
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Originally posted by rjschwarz
Jerry has the "only Nixon can go to China" thing going for him in that the Democrats in Sacramento and the Unions will trust him. That doesn't mean he'll be able to deal with them, nobody likes to see pensions cut, but it means he has a chance. Arnold had the bully pulpit and he stopped using it some time ago, I still don't know why he went up for reelection except perhaps pride.RJSchwarz
Arnie is an active man, and he needs something to do with his life. Jerry has substantial experience with government, and I think he will try to get the cuts through - if he does, then good for him.
