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Getting those "flying" shots.... wire rigging?

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 GLRD
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I have a film coming up that will have some shots of people flying (kinda like Crouching Tiger) - The way i was thinking of tackling this would be to film all the flying sequences in front of a greenscreen and then digitaly impose the backgrounds - does anyone know of anywhere i can get a wire or rope rig to hoist actors into the air and give them the "flying" look? Maybe a bungee cable or somehting would work? I've never done a shot like this before so i'm open to suggestions

Also i'd like to try one of those nice matrix-style moves where the actor does a kick in the air, camera pans 180 degrees around the actor(still in the air)and then continues with teh scene - anyone know where to start on that one?

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Posted : 15/01/2005 6:13 pm
 GLRD
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by the way, i'm using only Premeire Pro for this.... too poor for anything else 🙁

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Posted : 15/01/2005 6:23 pm
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A flying rig can be complicated - mostly because you are dealing the the safety of another person. check out this site for some info:
?url? http://www.flyingfx.com/standards.htm?/url?
Here's a picture of a rig:
?url? http://www.amspecinc.com/flyinggear/HExample1.htm?/url?

The other effect involves a series of still cameras (for example, 30) set up around the object. At the moment when the action should freeze, all 30 cameras fire at once. The images they capture are played one after another to show the rotation. To get a 2 second shot, 60 cameras are used. To get motion during the shot, the still cameras are rigged to shoot in sequence.

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Posted : 15/01/2005 6:59 pm
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Yeah be careful with rigging... A few years back this guy I know was shooting some action sequences using some home made rigging. The actor was trying to do a backflip and there were guys holding the rigging lifting him in the air and dropping him. The actor got caught in the wires during a take and the guys working the rigging almost let him drop to the floor. His head was inches away from the ground when they stopped his fall and if he had dropped any further he would have broken his neck. So just keep your actors safety in mind before you strap them into some crazy invention of yours.

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What? $1000!! That's crazy talk!!

 
Posted : 20/01/2005 6:01 am
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For the matrix shot: A buddy of mine used the still photo feature on his DV marked a perfect circle and had the actor stand perfectly still with blue sky for background. He then took pictures (not 30 or sixty; much less) from different points on the circle. He morphed the photos in post using, I'm sorry I forget the software but I'm sure it was consumer friendly, and the effect was alright. Good for a parody atleast.
Best of luck.

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Posted : 21/01/2005 4:20 am
 GLRD
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thanks for the advice guys! I had another idea for getting the matrix bullet-time shot that i think would work (in theory). I could get 4 decent-sized green screens to box off a small area of space - then have a green screen on the ground and maybe a small pedestal or step-stool or something tho ave the actor stand on and bring him off the ground a bit. Then i could just walk my camera around the actor and digitally impose the background. It most likely won't look like a perfect circle, but it seems cheaper and less time-consuming to film it this way.... of course, lighting might be an issue with trying to light all those green screens evenly and keeping my shadow out of the shot - what do ya think?

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Posted : 23/01/2005 12:24 am
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