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1920x1080/60P...........and....... HD 1920x1080i

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Hi friends can you please tell me the difference in simple words about both of them? actually i saw the details of 2 Cameras on the page

http://camcorder.jvc.com/product.jsp...000&pathId=141

where i read about these 2 cameras

http://camcorder.jvc.com/product.jsp...Id=141&page=10

http://camcorder.jvc.com/product.jsp...Id=141&page=10

i want to know how there results are different?and which has better results? i also read about them on wikipedia. i mean about 1920x1080/60P and 1920x1080i but still want to be clear about the picture quality in comparison and the basic difference. I read that one has horizontal lines and the other has vertical lines...so how do they effect the footage?

one more thing on the link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

in the 10th line it is said that

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The image that results is different from the display of original 1080p source material on a native 1080p capable display. Similarly, equipment capable of displaying both 720p and 1080i may in fact not have the capability to display 1080p or 1080i material at full resolution


can you please explain me this please?

adeel akhter

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Posted : 15/08/2008 7:50 am
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The "P" means progressive. Which means each frame is a picture as a single image

The "i" means interlaced. Each frame of an interlaced video signal shows every other
horizontal line of the image. As the frames are projected on the screen, the video
signal alternates between showing even and odd lines. When this is done fast enough,
i.e. around 60 frames per second, the video image looks smooth to the human eye.

The picture quality using either 1920x1080/60P or 1920x1080i will be very good.

The quote you offer means that when you shoot 1080p (progressive) and use a
1080p (progressive) display (TV monitor) you will see exactly what you shoot at
full resolution ( quality). There are some displays (TV monitors) that can only
show 720p and 1080i and cannot show 1080p at it's full resolution (quality).
So the display (TV monitor) shows the 1080p (progressive) image at a slightly
lesser resolution (quality).

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Posted : 15/08/2008 12:21 pm
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I've been also looking for this information.

Is there a way to convert interlaced to progressive in a simple NLE like Vegas?

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Posted : 15/08/2008 1:17 pm
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wELL certified instigator IT MEANS THAT AN hd CAM WITH 1920x1080/60P IS MORE SUITABLE FOR US

AS WE CAN SEE THE RESULTS OF MOVIE ON tv? BECAUSE ONCE I RAISED THE ISSUE OF IS hd = 35MM? AND I

GOT MANY MESSAGES TELLING ME ITS NOT AND WE HAVE TO WORK IN POST PRO....TO MAKE IT ABLE TO

PROJECT THE hd MADE MOVIE ON CINEMA(BECAUSE HD HAS 1 K QUALITY WHERE AS CINEMA NEEDS 2K QUALITY)

SO NOW IF WE CAN SEE THE HIGH QUALITY RESILT ON TV WE WILL KNOW MORE THAT HOW OUR FILM WILL LOOK

ON CINEMA......

adeel akhter

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Posted : 16/08/2008 2:52 am
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You can get excellent quality using any camera. Even SD. There have been
many movies shot on SD (720x480/60i) that were shown in the cinema.

The camera you use isn't as important as the story, the actors, the audio, the lens
the lighting, the directing and the editing. Frankly, you will get much better
quality with a Sony PD-170 (a SD camera) or the JVC HD 110 (720/60p) than
the cameras you link too because the lens is MUCH better. But I'm glad you
found the camera that is suitable for you!

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Posted : 16/08/2008 7:26 am
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certified instigator thanks for guiding me i have heard of SD cams too but dont know a lot about it..and well as you said

"But I'm glad you
found the camera that is suitable for you!"

the answer is well i dont have lot of knowledge of CAMS are you sure that the CAMS i mentioned .....Sony PD-170 (a SD camera) or the JVC HD 110 (720/60p) than
the cameras you link too because the lens is MUCH better. But I'm glad are more better then those????????in terms of pictire quality?

more over i think the price is high of SD cames which you mnetioned. isnt it true?

adeel akhter

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Posted : 16/08/2008 10:39 am
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adeel,

You get what you pay for. And the first thing camera makers cut out when developing small, inexpensive
cameras are the manual controls (very important), mic and headphone ports and the lens. Because the
users of the consumer grad cameras don't need any of those things. A person making a movie does. So
you are going to have to spend more money to get the important features a person making a movie for
DVD, festivals or the cinema needs.

I'm a huge fan of the JVC cameras. I own the GZ-HD7, the HD110 and the HD250 in addition to their
standard definition GY-DV5000. If I were shooting a movie for DVD, festivals or the cinema I would use
the Sony PD-170 over any of the cameras you linked to in you first post. But as I have said before, the
picture quality comes form the skill and experience of the operator more than from the camera itself.
I will be able to get a better picture quality using a $500 camera than you can using a $25,000 camera.

So my advice has always been to hire a director of photography with some skill and experience who owns
a camera to shoot your movie so you don't have to learn all about cameras. Advice you don't want. So it
seems you should buy any camera you can afford and start shooting your movie. The longer you spend
learning about cameras the longer it will take to get your movie made.

Buy the camera you can afford and start shooting!

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Posted : 16/08/2008 12:44 pm
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your advise is right i should rent things rather then buying the stuff

Thanks Certifies Instigator

adeel akhter

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Posted : 17/08/2008 6:20 am
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