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(@joe999)
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How much should I budget in for storyboarding for a feature film project? (what % of a budget do storyboard artists typically get paid?)

 
Posted : 09/12/2007 10:07 pm
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Theres nothing to stop your budget from being more than the cost of a few pencils and some paper you know? You dont always have to go tio illistrators, depends on what your production values are tho I suppose.

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Posted : 09/12/2007 11:50 pm
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I know. But if it was affordable I would consider hiring a storyboard artist, if nothing else to delegate the task and free up more time for other production efforts.

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Originally posted by Cleary

Theres nothing to stop your budget from being more than the cost of a few pencils and some paper you know? You dont always have to go tio illistrators, depends on what your production values are tho I suppose.


 
Posted : 10/12/2007 12:12 am
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This isn't usually a percentage job.

A pro will charge anywhere from $1 to $4/$5 per frame depending
on how long they've been in business and how experienced they are.
Many artists will charge by the page - with four to six frames per
page - in the $3 to $6 range. Of course you can work out a deal - one
fee for the entire job. Be prepared to know how many frames or
pages you think you'll need and put, in writing, what the fee will be
if you underestimated.

You don't want to be the producer who cheats artists, right?

Seems like a $400/$500 to an artist just breaking in is reasonable,
with $2 per page over the agreed upon frames. Maybe double that
for a really good artist. But expect to pay the desired rate for a pro.

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Posted : 10/12/2007 3:56 am
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Those sound like very reasonable rates, considering a storyboard artist I found on the web charges $45 per 3x4 inch sketch, more for larger sizes; that just seemed high to me. I did contact a local collage of art and design that matches filmmakers with students and student interns for storyboarding--that might make for a nice win+win scenario.

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Originally posted by certified instigator

This isn't usually a percentage job.

A pro will charge anywhere from $1 to $4/$5 per frame depending
on how long they've been in business and how experienced they are.
Many artists will charge by the page - with four to six frames per
page - in the $3 to $6 range. Of course you can work out a deal - one
fee for the entire job. Be prepared to know how many frames or
pages you think you'll need and put, in writing, what the fee will be
if you underestimated.

You don't want to be the producer who cheats artists, right?

Seems like a $400/$500 to an artist just breaking in is reasonable,
with $2 per page over the agreed upon frames. Maybe double that
for a really good artist. But expect to pay the desired rate for a pro.


 
Posted : 10/12/2007 3:22 pm
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I think my numbers are way off.

The last time I hired a storyboard artist was several years ago and
she was a good friend. The $45 sounds more like it - for a professional.
That would be roughly $1,200 to $1,500 per sequence. My numbers
would actually be insulting for a pro.

Students are a cheaper choice.

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Posted : 10/12/2007 4:58 pm
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Programs like Poser allow you to generate storyboards at minimal costs so any artists charging too much will find themselves with no work.

The way I like to do storyboards is to take digital shots of the location (if available) from the angles I want, preferably with actors or friends in the desired positions. Of course that presupposes the locations are available beforehand which is not always the case.

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Posted : 10/12/2007 4:59 pm
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I just ordered a couple of book on how to storyboard, might give it a try myself. I also emailed the person at an art college to see if art students or interns might work with me on storyboarding. I think I could do it myself, perhaps not as good, but it is more a time issue. I would rather focus my time on other production aspects.

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Originally posted by rjschwarz

Programs like Poser allow you to generate storyboards at minimal costs so any artists charging too much will find themselves with no work.

The way I like to do storyboards is to take digital shots of the location (if available) from the angles I want, preferably with actors or friends in the desired positions. Of course that presupposes the locations are available beforehand which is not always the case.


 
Posted : 10/12/2007 5:18 pm
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Stick figures would work, everything beyond that is gravy.

Remember, it takes time to explain to the artist what you want as well. You might end up drawing strick figures for the artist and having them do something presentable but time is gonna be a problem either way.

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Posted : 10/12/2007 5:25 pm
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I would think a professional storyboard artist would be able to translate the script to visuals close to what I want as director and writer, i.e. utilize perspective, rule of thirds, POV, OTS, moving shots, etc as laid out in a shooting script. But I get your point. It might become more about quality of presentation in the storyboarding which would have more use perhaps for pitching to investors.

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Originally posted by rjschwarz

Stick figures would work, everything beyond that is gravy.

Remember, it takes time to explain to the artist what you want as well. You might end up drawing strick figures for the artist and having them do something presentable but time is gonna be a problem either way.

RJSchwarz
San Diego, CA


 
Posted : 10/12/2007 9:24 pm
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Originally posted by Joe999
It might become more about quality of presentation in the storyboarding which would have more use perhaps for pitching to investors.


That would be the primary reason I would want a good-looking storyboard on a low-budget movie; otherwise I just make do with a rectangle and stick figures, that generally tells you and the DoP enough about how you planned to do the shot.

The student idea isn't a bad one, as I've met students before who wanted to get into storyboarding and they need to do a few movies cheap or free to prove they can do it. Of course you do have to hope that they can actually do it.

 
Posted : 10/12/2007 10:22 pm
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Can i know how much roughly will a storyboard artist cost?

 
Posted : 14/01/2008 2:55 am
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