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(@understanding)
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Super hero film: I've been coming up with imaginary super powers since I was 7, I'm now good at it. the Ideas that I want to make into a movie now are ideas that I've been working on for about 5 years. In order to make these ideas into a movie I need to know what is the first step I should take, the second, etc...
By the way, if you want to share info that's negative to the idea of making a film on this scale at a small level please keep it to your self. I have a few Ideas.
-Maybe I should just look for a producer and show him or her the story.
-Film internship. through that maybe I could meet people.
-alternate way of funding money: making an I-phone app, opening a business, etc...
-I need understanding, knowledge, wisdom. I want to know how to get the feeling of an imagined scene implimented into reality. Knowledge on what I should say to the people that can get me somewhere. Understanding on how the business market works in this time.
So to conclude this: Im looking for some replys. Can someone teach me. Is there a good book out there. What Work should I do, for I already have the insperation and mainly the persuasion to believe that I can do this.

 
Posted : 08/12/2011 7:09 pm
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Well, before I offer my advice, I need to know one thing; do you have a screenplay?

 
Posted : 08/12/2011 11:35 pm
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Excellent first question: do you have a finished screenplay?

Then:

What do YOU want to do on this movie?

A producer is going to want to see a completed screenplay
and will ask what YOU want to do on the movie.

An internship would be very helpful.

There are thousands of ways of getting money. Starting a
business is one, building a best selling App is a good one.

What are YOU really good at?

There are many books on the subject of filmmaking check
out this link http://filmmaking.net/bookstore/.

So step one is writing a screenplay.
Second step is deciding what YOU want to do on this movie.

After that I'm sure we can help more.

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

 
Posted : 09/12/2011 1:50 am
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No I have not. Your completly right, I dont know what I'm thinking. I just need to get out of my dream world,I've been using my imagination so much. Just two days ago I decided to stop creating ideas so much and start doing hard work. If you could, just give me the outline, maybe some tips on how to make a screenplay. for now i'll look online.

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Originally posted by TheGitzoKing

Well, before I offer my advice, I need to know one thing; do you have a screenplay?


 
Posted : 09/12/2011 3:52 am
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1. Thank you for the response
2. I have not written a screenplay. I am glad that I now know the first step. I have already started writting the story, will continue to do so. Other than the fact that I have to make my story into the regiment of a screenplay, I was wondering if there is knowledge that can better my understanding of how to make a screenplay. Ofcause I will look upon the internet for this information for now.
3.To answer your question "What do YOU want to do on this movie?": I want to play as the main character in this film. I want to, as much as possible, lay the foundation in peoples hearts, Build the structure, and fill this structure will all sorts of treasures; "new and old". I could go on but I'd rather wait to see if you'd like to go into that.
4.Thank you for repeating your question "What do YOU want to do on this movie?". My answer shall now be used as my profile signature.

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Originally posted by certified instigator

Excellent first question: do you have a finished screenplay?

Then:

What do YOU want to do on this movie?

A producer is going to want to see a completed screenplay
and will ask what YOU want to do on the movie.

An internship would be very helpful.

There are thousands of ways of getting money. Starting a
business is one, building a best selling App is a good one.

What are YOU really good at?

There are many books on the subject of filmmaking check
out this link http://filmmaking.net/bookstore/.

So step one is writing a screenplay.
Second step is deciding what YOU want to do on this movie.

After that I'm sure we can help more.

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)


 
Posted : 09/12/2011 4:43 am
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Well, to me it looks like you've already completed the first step, research and visualising. (: If you truly have convinced yourself that you can do it no matter what, then prove it.

First off, before anything, you need a screenplay. Forget about buisness, marketing, financing, production, or even pre-production, just think about one thing, THE STORY, and transfering it onto paper. You won't get this story anywhere until it is on paper, no distributor or investors will throw money at you for a "idea".

Personally, I do a lot of planning before I begin writing. I start with a synopsis, then buy a large stack of note cards and fill out each notecard with a scene title, number, what characters are involved, the location, and a brief description of what happens. Then I proceed to trasnfer the information from the cards onto a Step Outline, which is a much more detailed version of the story. Write each scene in one paragraph, and feel free to put as much detail as you want, but avoid dialouge unless its crucial. You can later go back and transfer some of the details in your step outline into the screenplay.

My last step outline was about 50 pages, but that was my personal length, you could also consider creating a film treatment, which is shorter then a step outline but generally the same thing. Look both of them up on google if you need more information.

Personally, I like to create character and location descriptions after I write the outlines, but this is up to you of course.

After you feel like you've planned enough, get to a bookstore and purchase a screenwriting book and study it like you have a test coming up. Read and learn everything there is to know about story structure, the three acts, logics, the flow of stories, whats important and whats not, the rules of theater and all of that. It goes on and on, but trust me, you need it to become a true story teller.

If you have a bit of cash, invest about 200 dollars in FrinalDraft, if not, Celtx writting software works just fine and is completly free! Devote 30 days to finish this screenplay, and keep in mind that its just your first draft, and you should jot down whatever simply sounds 'awsome' to you, there will be time to worry about the details later.
Attempt to write a certain amount of pages a day, and keep it between 90-120 pages! (:

 
Posted : 09/12/2011 5:25 am
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What I'm going to tell you next is something you will hate.

Slow down.

Orson Welles said, "A writer needs a pen, an artist needs a brush,
but a filmmaker needs an army."

Learning about the process of making a film will take a several
years and involve a lot of people. You've watched the credits of
films; there are a lot of people needed to make the dream come
true.

So you want to write and play the main character. Not only do you
need to be an excellent writer but an excellent actor, too. You
have your work cut out for you. And I'm telling you it CAN happen.

So take it slow. Write that script. Since you don't know anything
about writing a script you will have to start from the very beginning.
You need to read screenplays.

Go to
?url? http://www.zoetrope.com/?/url?
?url? http://www.triggerstreet.com/?/url?
?url? http://www.scriptbuddy.com/community/?/url?

Randomly pick 3 scripts from each. Don't look at the genre, the
synopsis, log line or writers name, just pick a total of 12 scripts.
And read them.

Go to
http://www.screenplays-online.de/
http://www.simplyscripts.com/
http://www.script-o-rama.com/

and pick a total of 10 scripts - 5 from movies you like and 5 from
movies you have not seen. Then after you have read the 5, watch
the movies.

The screenplay is a very specific work that must be understood by
that "army" Welles mentions. Learn the language and format of telling
your story in the screenplay form.

This is going to take time. Some writers work for years before they
have a screenplay that truly demonstrates their vision.

Are you up to the challenge?

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

 
Posted : 09/12/2011 6:15 am
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There is one obscure publication online, published years ago for a Scottish screenwriting contest. It is a 100-page guide for young screenwriters, called "Crash Course in Screenwriting" ( http://www.scottishscreen.com/images/documents/crashcourseinscreenwriting.pdf). It is fairly short, but it does give you must fundamental understanding on how is screenplay structured and gives some helpful guidance on how to transform a narrative story into an actual screenplay. And 100 pages should be short enough to read through even for those with the shortest attention span...

 
Posted : 09/12/2011 3:32 pm
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THANK YOU! Anything, and I mean anything(as in thoughts) that you all have that might be able to help please send me a message of it. I was just sitting down thinking on how I am going to push my self to read 24 screen plays. Maybe someone can give me time frames that they think are good to set up reading scheduals. For example: sit down and read 5 pages in 30 minutes, take brake, write down notes.

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Originally posted by Vasic

There is one obscure publication online, published years ago for a Scottish screenwriting contest. It is a 100-page guide for young screenwriters, called "Crash Course in Screenwriting" ( http://www.scottishscreen.com/images/documents/crashcourseinscreenwriting.pdf). It is fairly short, but it does give you must fundamental understanding on how is screenplay structured and gives some helpful guidance on how to transform a narrative story into an actual screenplay. And 100 pages should be short enough to read through even for those with the shortest attention span...


 
Posted : 14/12/2011 7:55 am
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Your post is considerate and inspiring, even though all the posts in here are thoroughly read by me.
I have actually copied and pasted your words and underlined the parts that I thought were surprising.
i accidentally skipped over your post originally and have just today read it. One question: How do you
write 90-120 pages a day? I going to impliment your instructions into my regiment. From now on im going
to check this forum out everyday and try to post my progress and questions. thank you for your input.

quote:


Originally posted by TheGitzoKing

Well, to me it looks like you've already completed the first step, research and visualising. (: If you truly have convinced yourself that you can do it no matter what, then prove it.

First off, before anything, you need a screenplay. Forget about buisness, marketing, financing, production, or even pre-production, just think about one thing, THE STORY, and transfering it onto paper. You won't get this story anywhere until it is on paper, no distributor or investors will throw money at you for a "idea".

Personally, I do a lot of planning before I begin writing. I start with a synopsis, then buy a large stack of note cards and fill out each notecard with a scene title, number, what characters are involved, the location, and a brief description of what happens. Then I proceed to trasnfer the information from the cards onto a Step Outline, which is a much more detailed version of the story. Write each scene in one paragraph, and feel free to put as much detail as you want, but avoid dialouge unless its crucial. You can later go back and transfer some of the details in your step outline into the screenplay.

My last step outline was about 50 pages, but that was my personal length, you could also consider creating a film treatment, which is shorter then a step outline but generally the same thing. Look both of them up on google if you need more information.

Personally, I like to create character and location descriptions after I write the outlines, but this is up to you of course.

After you feel like you've planned enough, get to a bookstore and purchase a screenwriting book and study it like you have a test coming up. Read and learn everything there is to know about story structure, the three acts, logics, the flow of stories, whats important and whats not, the rules of theater and all of that. It goes on and on, but trust me, you need it to become a true story teller.

If you have a bit of cash, invest about 200 dollars in FrinalDraft, if not, Celtx writting software works just fine and is completly free! Devote 30 days to finish this screenplay, and keep in mind that its just your first draft, and you should jot down whatever simply sounds 'awsome' to you, there will be time to worry about the details later.
Attempt to write a certain amount of pages a day, and keep it between 90-120 pages! (:


 
Posted : 14/12/2011 8:18 am
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You literatly asked me to read about 22 screen plays; that kinda threw me off. If you could, some instruction on how to do this would be much favored. To answer your question: I am up for the challenge. Im starting to care about my goals more by taking pride and prestige in what I've been doing since I was younger. At this point I need focus. If words could be likened unto food, than what I could use is some stong meat to seperate into pieces and understand. An example of that could be you telling me a deep strategy someone used to simply write there screenplay in a better fashion. What I need is a deep strategy on how to stay focused, get work done, be perserverant, and have love for my work.

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Originally posted by certified instigator

What I'm going to tell you next is something you will hate.

Slow down.

Orson Welles said, "A writer needs a pen, an artist needs a brush,
but a filmmaker needs an army."

Learning about the process of making a film will take a several
years and involve a lot of people. You've watched the credits of
films; there are a lot of people needed to make the dream come
true.

So you want to write and play the main character. Not only do you
need to be an excellent writer but an excellent actor, too. You
have your work cut out for you. And I'm telling you it CAN happen.

So take it slow. Write that script. Since you don't know anything
about writing a script you will have to start from the very beginning.
You need to read screenplays.

Go to
?url? http://www.zoetrope.com/?/url?
?url? http://www.triggerstreet.com/?/url?
?url? http://www.scriptbuddy.com/community/?/url?

Randomly pick 3 scripts from each. Don't look at the genre, the
synopsis, log line or writers name, just pick a total of 12 scripts.
And read them.

Go to
http://www.screenplays-online.de/
http://www.simplyscripts.com/
http://www.script-o-rama.com/

and pick a total of 10 scripts - 5 from movies you like and 5 from
movies you have not seen. Then after you have read the 5, watch
the movies.

The screenplay is a very specific work that must be understood by
that "army" Welles mentions. Learn the language and format of telling
your story in the screenplay form.

This is going to take time. Some writers work for years before they
have a screenplay that truly demonstrates their vision.

Are you up to the challenge?

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)


 
Posted : 14/12/2011 8:56 am
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quote:


Originally posted by Understanding

You literatly asked me to read about 22 screen plays; that kinda threw me off.


I told you you wouldn't like what I had to say.

Reading is a major part of writing. If I asked you to watch
22 movies that wouldn't have thrown you off - I could have
asked you to watch 44 movies and you would not have
been thrown off. I understand; very few writers like to read.
All successful writers love to read. Dedication, focus and
perseverance comes from inside, not from outside. You are
serious about doing this; you will find the method that works
for you.

When I covered scripts I read 10 to 15 a week and wrote full
coverage. I'm sure you can read 2 a week. You don't need to
take notes, you can just read and absorb the "language" of
the screenplay. In the mean time you should be writing. Write
for one hour every day; try for 3 to 5 pages a day - 20 to 30
pages per week. If you can't reach that, try for half - 10 to
15 pages per week writing one hour a day. You'll have your
first draft finished by this time next year. Or maybe by July
if you really try.

You didn't think putting together a big scale movie was going
be be easy, did you?

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

 
Posted : 14/12/2011 4:30 pm
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🙂 First and foremost thank you for your newest post. What I want to say is that I'm not complaining, I just found the task hard; that?s the difference. I used to literately sit down for about 3 hours straight, simply reading and memorizing, 2 to 3 times a week. I know I can do this. I am going to try to get myself set up at a community college, set my classes up a few hours apart from each other, and force myself to read Screenplays.
Next is that I have anticipated seeing these posts and still do. Thank you for saying that "successful writers love to read?; I did not know that and it makes sense. I liked how you said "you will find the method that works for you", I like listening to music while reading. As I think about that, the thought: "Is this session of studying really making progress" comes into play. By that what I mean to say is when I am done studying and this screenplay is written well, how much closer will I be to being done getting up these steps. Once I get up these steps will I make it up to a new room and if so what does this room look like. I said to myself last year that in four years I expect to get somewhere. I am patient, and I only set up that time restraint because I just turned 24. I'm the type of person that when I have to get clean up done, I like to know exactly what I have to do. Once I know that, I calculate it and keep it in my mind as I get the entire cleanup done.
I want to say that as I say these things, I'm not saying them as if I am combating with your teaching or instructions(which ever you want to call them), I'm combating with the thoughts of my life and showing you what is my conflict. I am enticing myself to get this studying and writing done more and more from reading things like your last statement: "You didn't think putting together a big scale movie was going to be easy, did you?". ok I?m off to work, thanks again.

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Originally posted by certified instigator

quote:


Originally posted by Understanding

You literatly asked me to read about 22 screen plays; that kinda threw me off.


I told you you wouldn't like what I had to say.

Reading is a major part of writing. If I asked you to watch
22 movies that wouldn't have thrown you off - I could have
asked you to watch 44 movies and you would not have
been thrown off. I understand; very few writers like to read.
All successful writers love to read. Dedication, focus and
perseverance comes from inside, not from outside. You are
serious about doing this; you will find the method that works
for you.

When I covered scripts I read 10 to 15 a week and wrote full
coverage. I'm sure you can read 2 a week. You don't need to
take notes, you can just read and absorb the "language" of
the screenplay. In the mean time you should be writing. Write
for one hour every day; try for 3 to 5 pages a day - 20 to 30
pages per week. If you can't reach that, try for half - 10 to
15 pages per week writing one hour a day. You'll have your
first draft finished by this time next year. Or maybe by July
if you really try.

You didn't think putting together a big scale movie was going
be be easy, did you?

=============================================
The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)


 
Posted : 14/12/2011 9:00 pm
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OK! I just made a bunch of progress. i just had to post that. I just wrote some story, but I'm now feeling a bit of doubt. i think it is doubt at least. i want to make this movie as realistic as possible. Maybe then I will be able to invision it more and be very productive. I'm wondering exactly how much pages it takes to makee a three hour movie or at least two hours. I wrote 2 pages yesterday. I guessing that there is other categories of creativity that I have to work in; categories that expand this story.

 
Posted : 15/12/2011 4:55 pm
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If you are using standard format when writing your script, one page roughly equals one minute of film time. This is why it is extremely important to actually format script exactly according to the Hollywood standard (margins, spacing, fonts, indentation, etc). Luckily, you don't need to spend money on scriptwriting software (such as Final Draft); Celtx can do this for you and it is free (at celtx.com).

 
Posted : 16/12/2011 5:04 am
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