Greetings all. This question might have been answered previously but it is something that I guess I am looking at.
I am about to embark on my very first feature film and there is one area that needs to be covered before I head down the road and that is the Sound Mix and Final Mixes.
I am aware of the importance of ADR if good sound on set is not recorded, and I feel that I am able to give the lines and emotion of the lines and other noise the characters need to make during the scene and I can use a program like Audition to record the dialogue for this as the actor watches the footage which can be played back using any video playback providing it is digital.
Then we have the Sound Effect, recorded or acquired separately and they are then inserted into the film. They are recorded as separate files and imported into an audio program and synced up with the video, but what program am I able to do this with. Audition has the multi track editor but to play and sync up the sound with the video is this possible and how can it be done, or is Audition 2 better for this.
If this is possible then the Foley is mixed in a similar way and then the music is mixed in.
Then each track is then adjusted and other DSP effects added to the Final mix including 5.1 mixes. Can someone help me with this as it is this syncing problem that is my major one that I am unsure about, everything else is fine.
Thank you in advance for your replies.
Michael Rogers
Michael Rogers
McRogson
Michael Rogers
McRogson
I'm not sure about 5.1, but for normal stereo output I just import the sounds to the editing program and add extra effects tracks for them.
in audition you can go to the multi track view and click on insert video. Then adjust all of your vox and sfx in the multi track and save the audio mixdown and then insert it into your editing program and line it up with the footage. Its pretty easy to sync up all of your sounds in audition if you change the time counter from BPM or seconds to whatever your frame rate is. I would wait and do the music on the final edit of your movie.
Wow, I haven't posted here in a while. Anyways, through all this time I've become good in audio,music wise. I use cubase to record music and you can import video to sync audio with it. You can also set the counter to 24fps. I too do not know exactly how the 5.1 process is. Let me explain to you a little about mono and stereo and then 5.1 . First of, mono is when all your tracks sit in the center and you hear everything the same from both your speakers. Stereo is when you pan intruments (or voices) to the left and right to give you an image of a band playing infront of you. You would do the same with sound effects and voices to give realism to what people are seeing. Now, recording in stereo is where the technicalities come in. Recording in stereo will make your audio tracks actually sounds more realistic. So let's say we record an acoustic guitar that we want to pan both left AND right. Well if you only record one mono track and copy and paste it to a left and right track, all you get is a wider mono track. BUT, if you record with two microphones (I won't get specific with the placement and the names for several methods of mic placement) and place one on the left and one on the right, your microphones will capture the TRUE sound of each side of the guitar. THen you get both tracks and pan them accordingly. Your sound will then be true stereo and your ears will SWEAR that you hear a guitar surrounding you.
Anyways, I suppose for an academy award winning audio, you would want to record sounds exactly as they show in the picture to make it sound more realistic. If you see gun shot in the middle of a park and just add one of those downloaded sounds, even adding reverb and other effects, your ears will not be convinced. Sometimes you have to record with certain placement and space.
So that's a little bit about stereo recording and the nature of recording. 5.1 I am not so sure how this goes. I have a plug in that let's you move a track to any side of the 5 speakers but I'm not sure that it's being encoded in to Dolby 5.1 or DTS. You have to buy their plug in.
"Metal never dies it only hides"- Aaron
"Metal never dies it only hides"- Aaron
I'm quite certain that Adobe Premiere Pro has built in 5.1 surround editing built in. You can check it out here http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/?sdid=LGLR
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I can almost swear that the dolby plug in is a demo. I don't have the computer I have premiere installed in so I'm not sure.
"Metal never dies it only hides"- Aaron
"Metal never dies it only hides"- Aaron
Yep, you can only render audio in DOlby a couple of times before the licence expires 🙁
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Really? Even if you've bought the program? That's dastardly.
'In the life that man creates for himself, he too, creates his demise... and his legacy.'
'In the life that man creates for himself, he too, creates his demise... and his legacy.'
I use Protools at my college. When the final edit is done I get a small quicktime file and imprt it into protools and sync it up there.
If you don't have protools, Don't use premier for sound. FInal cut is excellent (cold mountain was done in this manner).
Avid will probably do the job too.
Many thanks for all of the help on this. It certainly has made me feel more at ease when that process comes.
I knew I was able to import the audio into Premiere, but Audition has more tools to manipulate the audio than Premiere does which is why this concerned me.
Many thanks and I wish you all the best.
Michael Rogers
McRogson
Michael Rogers
McRogson
