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 ccw
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It seems the more work I do on any single project on Sony (adding, changing, cutting, moving) the faster I go, the more I do the more likely it is to freeze. Whats annoying is I have to sign out of it and sign back in and sometimes it doesn't save what I have done.

It has been doing this for a while now so to secure anything on it...I do some work, x out and save it and then sign back in because I am afraid it will freeze and lose again.

I am wondering if that is a vegas problem or could it be something else?

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 5:16 pm
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32 bit or 64 bit? How big is the project? Specifically how big (how many gigs worth) is the data you are using? Also, what are the specs of the machine you are using? Finally, Vegas Pro or Studio Premium and what version?

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 5:55 pm
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Sony Vegas 10 hd platnum. The project in vegas may only be a few minuets long...It could be a one minuet long thing I am fooling around with and it will freeze when I start moving things around fast. Almost like the system gets confused with all the changes and then shuts down.

The machine: HP windows vista // 64 bit operating system // 4gb ram // processor: t6600 ?2.20ghz

I also keep rebooting the computor lately. When I go to youtube.com nothing plays...I reboot and its fine. I am begining to think its this computor but I don't know why.

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 6:24 pm
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My understanding (from your other posts) is that your camcorder is Canon HF200, which means that your files are MTS (AVCHD) files. This video codec poses serious challenges to your computer.

I would probably try two things. First, I would look at transcoding the original MTS files into something else. As a Mac person, I don't exactly know the options on Windows; I know there are commercial tools, such as Neoscene, which transcodes AVCHD into much more manageable Cineform codec. I'm sure there are also free tools that will do the same using some more common (and free) codec that Vegas can handle. These conversions make resulting files much bigger (up to 8 times), but any relatively recent (3 years) computer can easily handle them.

Second thing would be trying to increase the size of the page file (sort of virtual memory) on your computer. Again, I don't know Vista, but at work I have XP, and setting can be found by right-clicking on 'My Computer', 'Properties', 'Advanced', 'Performance', then 'Advanced' (leave it to Microsoft to make it complicated). I would put the minimum size at 2GB (2048MB), and increase maximum by 2GB from whatever you currently have (at least 4GB, or 4192MB).

Either one of these two should help, but both together will likely completely resolve your issues.

 
Posted : 26/01/2011 12:32 pm
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I got to advanced...then hit performance..then it gave me info on my computor (stats) so I hit advanced again (on the left side of the screen). A systems properties screen came up. It gave me a choice of computor name / hardware / advanced .... so I hit advanced ..... I couldnt see anything in there that would allow me to change anything.

By the way, I am computor illiterate. I only use it for internet and editing.

As for the first part - I wouldn't have any idea how to transcode mts to cineform. I wouldn't know where to begin...it sounds so friggen complicated.

Are the troubles of this computor stemming from having way too many mts files? I am guessing so...
Do I have to transcode one mts file at a time or could I do the whole load of them?

 
Posted : 26/01/2011 3:55 pm
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I thought cineform was something else...but its a product to purchase that converts avchd...if I am correct in what I saw. However I read that it does not work well with Sony Vegas...Is that correct?

I am seriously wondering if I shouldn't invest in another editing system...

 
Posted : 26/01/2011 4:04 pm
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You were almost there... I looked it up online and got the following instructions:

# Right-click Computer in the Start Menu.
# Select Properties.
# Click Advanced system settings on the left side of the System window.
# Click the Settings button in the Performance section of the Advanced tab.
# Select the Advanced tab in the Performance Options window.
# Click the Change button in the Virtual memory section.
# Uncheck Automatically manage paging file size for all drives.

Now, highlight 'C' drive, select 'Custom size', then enter what I suggested above (Initial size 2GB, Max. at least 4GB). Click set and reboot the PC. Play with the second number (make change, reboot PC, do your work in Vegas and see if it freezes, crashes, etc. Then increase the max size to 5GB, reboot again and test again).

Good luck!

 
Posted : 26/01/2011 6:51 pm
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Hopefully, increasing the paging file will make work with MTS files a bit less of a chore.

As for cineform, yes, it is a commercial product and costs money. I'm sure there are free solutions, but I'll have to look later for those. Meanwhile, try the paging file thing.

 
Posted : 26/01/2011 6:55 pm
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Thanks. I am going to try it again...meanwhile Cineform has a free trial...but I cannot seem to download it...and I am 100% sure its me. I am never able to download anything on here. I researched and read somewhere to go into default and change something...but no idea what to change. My guess is, there is something on here that is stopping me from downloading anything - not that I want to download much anyway...but I would give the cineform a try for two weeks.

 
Posted : 26/01/2011 7:04 pm
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Okay so I went to the end there and this is what came up:

The initial paging file size must be between 16mb and 16777216mb and cannot exceed the amount of free space on the drive you have selected.

 
Posted : 26/01/2011 7:12 pm
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The paging file size must be bigger than 16MB (sixteen mega-bytes, not 16mb, which is sixteen mili-bits). You want to set it at at least 4GB (giga-bytes, which is 4,192 MB), or higher.

 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:37 am
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Are your video files on the same hard drive that Windows is installed on? Make sure you have enough free space. Optimally, you don't want to have Vegas installed on the same drive as Windows and you want to have your video files on a fast, massive drive. If you are having to mess with your paging you are probably going to struggle with rendering on that machine. You can get a few things to run (gadgets if you use your sidebar) that will tell you how much of your CPU and memory is being used. It's monitored in real time and could give you some info to help you out.

 
Posted : 27/01/2011 11:51 pm
 ccw
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Here is what this computor says:

Factory image D 10% left
HP C 60% free

This probably means absolutly nothing.

In the meantime I was checking out info on windows vista...it seems that when the year changed thats when this little warning that I was running out of space came up. I was reading that this is apparently a normal thing it does. To get it to stop popping up I would have to change the date on this computor to the previous year. It sounds kind of stupid..in this day and age to have to do that.
However rebooting it a few times, shutting it down seems to have worked...crossing fingers.

Thanks all.

 
Posted : 30/01/2011 1:34 am
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