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(@pippinthejedi)
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Hey, everyone! Quick question. I don't have my own computer yet (still a kid, so using my parent's Dell) and I was looking at laptops in terms of Dell and Sony. However, I just found out about the new Mac program, Boot camp that runs Windows on Mac computers. I also fell in love with the MacBook Pro when I found out it came with boot camp. Now I realize that this probably won't be a problem, but can BootCamp run Sony Vegas Platinum edition (which I just bought) on the Windows XP part of the Mac? I realize it probaly will, but I wanted to make sure before I go buy a $1500 machine.

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Posted : 09/06/2006 12:40 am
(@rjschwarz)
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The way I understand it Bootcamp allows the system to dual boot. Once you have that option you can boot Windows XP as if it was a Dell. If you want to use Mac programs you have to reboot into Mac OS, if you want to run Windows programs you have to reboot into Windows. Currently the Windows and Mac sides cannot talk to each other.

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Posted : 09/06/2006 1:36 am
(@agingeri)
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Boot Camp is actually just a little program to help you install Windows on your Mac, so when you boot into Windows on that MacBook Pro, you're actually running Windows the way any PC would. There should be no issues.

There's also a "virtualization" solution that lets you run Windows within the Mac OS--so that you don't have to reboot to run a Windows program--called Parallels Workstation. This is a bit more iffy for running something as resource-intensive as a video editor and I believe there are some compatibility issues on this front, but it could still be possible. Of course, this option will cost you more money.

Also, remember that either of these routes will require you to own a Windows license and install discs.

Anyway, yes, there's no reason you should be unable to run Vegas on Windows-"infected" Mac. (Couldn't help myself, I'm a bit of a Mac snob)

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Posted : 09/06/2006 2:14 am
(@airwalk331)
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I would not go that route. I've thought about it too. Bootcamp is a performance eater and would not run vegas at the expected speed youd like.

Mac would love to ship the Macbook Pro with bootcamp and give its customers the possibilty of running windows and mac right out ofthe box, believe me. But there's a reason they're not. It doesn't work that well yet.

 
Posted : 01/07/2006 8:09 am
(@agingeri)
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Actually, I think you're thinking of Parallels, or perhaps VirtualPC. Again, BootCamp is just a tool for formatting your hard drive and INSTALLING Windows. When you run Windows from a BootCamp installation you're doing just that--RUNNING WINDOWS, without any sort of emulation or virtualization. In fact, I've heard from BootCamp users that the new Intel Macs make blazing fast Windows machines.

The real question, of course, is why anyone would WANT to run Windows on a Mac for any considerable length of time. In that respect, I think Parallels is a much more practical solution, although it will result in worse performance than if you were running Windows natively.

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Exploding Goldfish Films
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Posted : 09/07/2006 12:35 am
(@airwalk331)
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Bootcamp and running windows on a mac is a new idea/project. It works, but think about it. You're running an entire operating system on Max OSX. It will work but if you're running an entire operating system which is about (three to five times as much memory vegas will take) do you really think it will run well? Any editing software program is a performance hog, it's natural.

It will run incredibly slow on an average machine and it will be slow on a high end machine. Period.

 
Posted : 09/07/2006 2:01 am
(@airwalk331)
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Also, to the question of why you would want to run Windows on a Mac- It's very simple. To have the best of both worlds. Avid is the industry standard for editing (while you're using vegas, I'm speaking in generalities) Avid is a PC based system even though it is available on mac (as Xpress Pro), Xpress Pro HD is not. Also if you plan on using it for games.

Keep in mind it will be a bitch running it, but that's why you'd want both operating systems in one computer.

 
Posted : 09/07/2006 2:05 am
(@agingeri)
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No? when you run windows on a Mac using a Boot Camp installation, Mac OS X is NOT RUNNING. What Boot Camp does is create a dual-boot option, so that you can shut down the computer and reboot into windows to run it just as you would on, for example, a Dell--WITHOUT the Mac OS running in the background and eating up system resources. Using this method, you actually get a blazingly fast windows partition running on any Intel Mac. Granted, this IS a new idea because Intel Macs have only been available for a few months, but since the new Macs use the exact same processor architecture as all windows machines, the only only real engineering challenge to get windows running on one of these machines was setting it up to work with the EFI booting scheme used in Macs instead of the BIOS system used in PCs, and I haven't heard of any issues in that respect.

I think you're confusing Boot Camp with Parallels, which is a commercially-available program to run Windows WITHIN Mac OS X using virtualization, the advantage of this approach being that you don't have to reboot into Windows every time you want to run a Windows program. Because it is running within OS X, Parallels certainly WILL eat up system resources, but it can still be surprisingly speedy.

For specifics on how Boot Camp works, take a look at http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

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Andrew Gingerich
Exploding Goldfish Films
Check out my vodcast on iTunes: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=96931870
and my blog at http://www.exgfilms.com

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Andrew Gingerich
Exploding Goldfish Films
Check out my blog at http://www.exgfilms.com
and my reel at http://portfolio.exgfilms.com

 
Posted : 14/07/2006 5:10 am
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