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No, is what hes trying to say. Cause special effects are visual. Cleary.

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I was watching a behind the scenes heroes thing on youtube about the effects used on the show. The visual supervisor said there's a difference between visual and special effects. Like special effects is atmospher like rain fire and smoke, but visual is stuff created in the background. Sorry i asked Henry. Why don't you go watch it?

You got it, 15filmakernyc - special effects are effects done on set,
visual effects are effects done in post production. Lightning created
on set by flashing a 10k is special effects. Lightning created in After Effects
is visual effects. Firing a gun with blanks on set is special effects, adding
a muzzle flash in post is a visual effect.

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a lot of times it would be cheper and esier (totally dependent on the effect though) to recreate the effect on set.

It may seem easier in post but there may be a lot of modelling, rendering etc. i.e you can recreate smoke in post but it would still look more 'real' and be a hell of a lot cheaper if you use dry ice or make a smoke bomb.

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I have yet to see a gunwound in post that looked even remotely as good as one done in camera.

On the other hand faking the muzzle blast from gunfire in post means you can use a rubber gun on set and avoid a lot of hassles.

RJSchwarz
San Diego, CA

interesting i didn't know you could make a gunshot wound in camera.
so depending on what effect you want some things might be easier in special effects than visual?

Easier, cheaper and more productive. Not everything though.

It depends how good the people in post are i suppose. If you have someone who is REALLY good, and already has lots of their own effects etc that maybe put to use then tha could be done as well.

The A-Team used quite a bit of footage from James Bond movies (helicopters/planes crashing etc) and then just did the next shots from where they was getting out of the crashed chopper. Because they probably had a good deal this would have cost them a lot less than trashing a real chopper.

However i believe in the Fall Guy that they went through about three of his trucks each episode

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A gunshot wound done in post-production is generally a spray of computer created blood. Occasionally a bullet hole that may or may not stay in place as the victim falls. It is rarely realistic but the programs are getting far better and it may be a matter of time and love these days to get it right.

RJSchwarz
San Diego, CA