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(@b-brown)
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Hey everyone,

I'm new here, and I'm glad I found this forum. I'm a 17 year old independent film maker, and I've been making very short films (for fun) for quite a while.

Recently, my girlfriend bought me a new camera. So, I talked with some of my friends and we've decided to make our own independent short film, taking place during the Holocaust.

We don't have a problem obtaining a microphone for our movie, however, we're wondering what we hook the microphone up to once it's on the boom pole?

Does it hook into the cam? or a recorder? and is there a way to get the sound from the recorder onto the pc?

Any help on this matter is appreciated. thanks a lot!

 
Posted : 06/06/2006 8:47 pm
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Originally posted by B. Brown
We don't have a problem obtaining a microphone for our movie, however, we're wondering what we hook the microphone up to once it's on the boom pole?

Does it hook into the cam? or a recorder? and is there a way to get the sound from the recorder onto the pc?


Welcome to the forums!

If your camera has a mic input you can run it directly into the camera. Many people record dialogue to a separate recorder - I always do. I use DAT. I hear of people recording directly to the computer - I've never done it, hopefully someone can help you with that option.

If you record to something other than the camera you will need to use a marker - called a "slate" or "clapperboard". If you don't know about using this let me know and I'll explain. I don't want to go into an explanation of something you already know.

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Posted : 07/06/2006 3:12 am
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Originally posted by certified instigator

quote:


Originally posted by B. Brown
We don't have a problem obtaining a microphone for our movie, however, we're wondering what we hook the microphone up to once it's on the boom pole?

Does it hook into the cam? or a recorder? and is there a way to get the sound from the recorder onto the pc?


Welcome to the forums!

If your camera has a mic input you can run it directly into the camera. Many people record dialogue to a separate recorder - I always do. I use DAT. I hear of people recording directly to the computer - I've never done it, hopefully someone can help you with that option.

If you record to something other than the camera you will need to use a marker - called a "slate" or "clapperboard". If you don't know about using this let me know and I'll explain. I don't want to go into an explanation of something you already know.


Thanks for the reply. I do know what clapper boards and slates are, however, I'm not entirely sure how to use them effectively. If you could explain, that'd be great.

Thanks again!

 
Posted : 07/06/2006 12:14 pm
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What does a slate do. (1) It provides a bunch of info on the scene so that you can find things easily in editing. Scene number, take number, that sort of thing. (2) When you use the clapper on the top of the slate you create a visual and sound combination that can be used to sync up the visual and sound during editing. If you record sound into camera there is no need to sync (3) provides a cheap gag gift for friends to buy you when they find out you're making a movie.

Sometimes you forget to slate a scene, when that happens you can slate it afterwards, this is generally done with the slate upside down.

Lacking a slate you can slam a car door, or clap your hands, or other such things but the slate looks more professional.

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Posted : 07/06/2006 5:42 pm
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What I often do is just shout Scene 1 Shot 1 Take 1 without the use of a clapper. Is there anything bad about that?

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Posted : 07/06/2006 6:09 pm
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My camera has an AV port. Does this mean I could hook a microphone with an AV connector up to my cam, to record audio?

 
Posted : 07/06/2006 8:14 pm
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What I often do is just shout Scene 1 Shot 1 Take 1 without the use of a clapper. Is there anything bad about that?


That's fine if you're recording sound on the camera, though it's usually easier to spot a slate than a shout when you're fast-forwarding through the footage looking for the next shot.

 
Posted : 07/06/2006 9:50 pm
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Oh, right. Movie Maker 2, which I use can automatically split into clips by realizing a difference in light, sound or the fact that the camera had been paused.

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Posted : 07/06/2006 10:39 pm
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Originally posted by B. Brown

My camera has an AV port. Does this mean I could hook a microphone with an AV connector up to my cam, to record audio?


I was just wondering about that the other day.
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Posted : 07/06/2006 10:40 pm
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"My camera has an AV port. Does this mean I could hook a microphone with an AV connector up to my cam, to record audio?"

You might try bringing your camera with you when you look to buy a mic. Plug it in and see if you can record sound. Even if you end up buying the mic online its probably worth taking your camera to the electronics store and being certain.

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Posted : 08/06/2006 4:39 pm
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Originally posted by Svelter

What I often do is just shout Scene 1 Shot 1 Take 1 without the use of a clapper. Is there anything bad about that?


Nothing bad about that at all. However, if you use a visual marker like a slate, you can see "Scene 1, Shot 1, Take 1" in addition to hearing it on the sound track.

I'll just add to what rj said: The actual marking of a sync point (that's where the sticks hit together) is only essential if you are using two different recording devices - one for picture and one for sound. On the picture track you can see where the stick make contact - on the audio track you can hear where they make contact. You put these two together in your time line and they are now in sync.

If you are recording audio and picture on the same tape (like all camcorders do) you don't need to strike the sticks at all. Most people do, because it makes them appear more professional, but since your aren't syncing picture and audio, you don't need to do it.

Try using a visual marker at the beginning of each take and it really helps speed up editing. Then when you start using a marked script (the script supervisors job) editing becomes even easier.

AV port: most AV ports are outputs, not inputs.

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Posted : 08/06/2006 6:39 pm
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quote:


Originally posted by Svelter

What I often do is just shout Scene 1 Shot 1 Take 1 without the use of a clapper. Is there anything bad about that?


While filming El Mariachi Robert Rodriguez (and another) held up a series of fingers to denote visually what Roll/Scene/Shot/Take it was since he wasn't capturing audio in any normal sane way. .

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Posted : 08/06/2006 8:23 pm
(@b-brown)
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Any sound recorders you folks recommend??

I decided to record the sound individually, and then putting it with the scenes in post production. Is that hard to do, by the way?

 
Posted : 10/06/2006 6:39 pm
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