It would help a lot if you tell us what level you are, and what your budget is.

I have a hard time believing you can afford the sound mixing software that million dollar companies have.

If your looking for a free one, try Audacity.

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It would help a lot if you tell us what level you are, and what your budget is.

I have a hard time believing you can afford the sound mixing software that million dollar companies have.

If your looking for a free one, try Audacity.

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I've got audacity and its great...but i need soundmixing software. I'm not worried about budjet because i'm not in production. I want to know any good softwares for sound mixing thats it. I might need to recreate the sounds for whole scene.
I'm not worried about price, I just want to know about the software. Price comes later when I decide which one.

What do you mean by "Sound Mixing" then? You can mix audio in Audacity, or a bunch of other programs. Adobe Audition, Soundtrack for the FCP user, and the most commonly used for broadcast- Pro Tools. Though I'd recommend Soundtrack or Audition if you're going in blind, Pro Tools takes some serious know how.

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Hi,
i've got visual effects, editing and all that great. But sound mixng i need now. Does anyone know any good professional sound mixing software like ones used in king kong and lord of the rings.

thx alot ?:)

note: ones compatible with windows

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To go "cheaper", I would use the Sony products available on the market (Vegas, Soundforge, Acid). These will give you all the tools at a more reasonable price with professional results. You won't be sorry.

GWA
Producer
The Detroit Chop Shop

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What do you mean by "Sound Mixing" then? You can mix audio in Audacity, or a bunch of other programs. Adobe Audition, Soundtrack for the FCP user, and the most commonly used for broadcast- Pro Tools. Though I'd recommend Soundtrack or Audition if you're going in blind, Pro Tools takes some serious know how.

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by sound mixing, i mean mixing sounds with the film. Say if on set, there was loads of background noise, i can't use that audio so i would recreate it. All the sounds I have I would mix with the film. Adobe Premiere will be too confuseing and has not enough tools.

I don't believe no one hasn't done this before on this site

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Originally posted by DaveD

What do you mean by "Sound Mixing" then? You can mix audio in Audacity, or a bunch of other programs. Adobe Audition, Soundtrack for the FCP user, and the most commonly used for broadcast- Pro Tools. Though I'd recommend Soundtrack or Audition if you're going in blind, Pro Tools takes some serious know how.

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by sound mixing, i mean mixing sounds with the film. Say if on set, there was loads of background noise, i can't use that audio so i would recreate it. All the sounds I have I would mix with the film. Adobe Premiere will be too confuseing and has not enough tools.

I don't believe no one hasn't done this before on this site

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Again, your best effort would be towards the Sony products (Vegas, Soundforge, Acid). Vegas is a perfect tool, with unlimited tracking, and an easy interface for mixing sound for picture. Soundforge can be used to edit specific sounds. Acid can be used to create music loops and such, as well as mixing.

I've been producing at The Detroit Chop Shop for a number of years. We are the largest independent sound effects producers in the world. In addition, we do sound for picture for indies, commercials, and corporate. Some of our engineers use Sony products, some use Pro Tools. Pro Tools requires some advanced knowledge for the interface. You can hit the ground running with Sony after some brief tutorials and it's cheaper!

Go with Sony.

GWA
Producer
The Detroit Chop Shop

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Originally posted by DaveD

What do you mean by "Sound Mixing" then? You can mix audio in Audacity, or a bunch of other programs. Adobe Audition, Soundtrack for the FCP user, and the most commonly used for broadcast- Pro Tools. Though I'd recommend Soundtrack or Audition if you're going in blind, Pro Tools takes some serious know how.

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by sound mixing, i mean mixing sounds with the film. Say if on set, there was loads of background noise, i can't use that audio so i would recreate it. All the sounds I have I would mix with the film. Adobe Premiere will be too confuseing and has not enough tools.

I don't believe no one hasn't done this before on this site

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I'm not even going to try to decipher that last sentence. So many negatives...

What I'm getting is that you want to Foley and ADR entire scenes. I would suggest recording and effecting your sounds in a separate program (such as soundtrack) and them importing them into whatever editor you're currently using and mixing in the editor.

It seems like you expect there to be a step in the process that isn't there. I'll give you a few examples of possible workflows to try to clear things up.

1)
Problem: I need to add the sound effect of a gun cocking.
Solution: Find a free gun cocking SFX online or, failing that, record one in Audition. Import the sound into the video editor, add a new audio track (usually 2 for left and right) and place the audio where it needs to go.

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Problem: My dialogue is muddy and there is a refrigerator hum in the background
Solution: Export original audio tracks as WAVs or AIFFs. Use noise reduction in Soundtrack, and fiddle with the sound until the dialogue is clearer. Re-import tracks and replace current ones.

3)
Problem: The audio simply sucks and is unsalvageable.
Solution: Ditch the audio. Foley footsteps and other SFX needed in Audition. ADR voices, having actors read to video and getting plenty of takes in Audition. Export all sounds and ADR to video editor. Line up ADR to best of ability, re-record anything necessary. Lay SFX under ADR, on separate audio tracks.

thing is, using the editor add in foley sounds is not a good idea. In premiere you cannot animate where sound is going from left to right. I need a sound mixing software, like stuff they use lord of the rings and king kong

In Final Cut you add the sound, select it, and adjust the balance to move the sound so that it sounds more to the left or right. You can use keyframes to make the balance shift on a track during a scene to have that speaking character appear to move from left to right.

Peter Jackson's folks used Shake on King Kong, so they may have used Final Cut. I strongly suspect Premiere can do the exact same stuff, since this seems like a basic requirement for most films. You might want to find a Premier user group and ask them for specific details.

RJSchwarz
San Diego, CA

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In Final Cut you add the sound, select it, and adjust the balance to move the sound so that it sounds more to the left or right. You can use keyframes to make the balance shift on a track during a scene to have that speaking character appear to move from left to right.

Peter Jackson's folks used Shake on King Kong, so they may have used Final Cut. I strongly suspect Premiere can do the exact same stuff, since this seems like a basic requirement for most films. You might want to find a Premier user group and ask them for specific details.

RJSchwarz
San Diego, CA

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In king kong, shake was used for compositing visual effects and they avid.
I don't want to use my editor (premiere to do sound mixing, i want to use a sound mixing program.

Try ProTools

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I understand Shake was used for compositing. My point was they used off the shelf Apple stuff (although that may have been before Apple bought Shake).

RJSchwarz
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Try ProTools

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but pro tools doesn't mix sounds, it edits them. I need software to gather loads of audio sounds like foley, adr and mix them together with video. My video editor premiere is not ideal nor is any other video editor.

Perhaps Soundtrack? Something tells me you're not gonna find what you're looking for as I think most people use the editing software to drop Foley sounds right into the timeline.

RJSchwarz
San Diego, CA