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(@youngone)
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What do you guys think about Quentin Tarantino? I've never seen any of his films, and have heard mixed things about him. What are your feelings?

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Posted : 10/02/2004 6:55 pm
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Hes a pretty good director. Depending on you tastes, he likes to make things violent and sharp (excuse the pun). But yea I like his films quite a bit. He also has that same ability as Kubrick had to use music to great effect in his films.

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Posted : 11/02/2004 5:33 am
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he was and still is a writer and actor too !!
He takes many ideas from japanese movies,smart move, as did the makers of spaghetti westerns back in the 60's.
some movies that he has had a part in are good too, as when he worked with the guy who made El Mariachi (sorry forgot his name).
i like his style and have to give hime credit that he is smart and has made himself a niche in the business.

 
Posted : 11/02/2004 4:50 pm
 Ray
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On the otherhand...

Kill Bill Volume 1 is an out-and-out B movie and maybe that's what Mr T set out to make. However it's a disappointing mix of styles and the fight sequences are NOT better than Crouching Tiger or Matrix; there's just more blood.

Some of the scenes in Kill Bill are awkwardly scripted aswell, exhibiting a pseudo depth that basically wastes the viewers time. For example, the ancient Sword Maker sequence.

It's brilliant that Uma has the lead role and she obviously works her socks off but I would say that any good first assistant director could have made this movie.

The fact that I was also disappointed with Jackie Brown kinda confirms my suspicion that Monsieur Tarantino is very, very shrewd and that his wise cracking scripts are like his numerous interviews, full of c**p 🙂

It's hard to beat Tarantino for innovative script structure but Memento stole that thunder so now all that Mr T has left is "Kevin Smith" style ranting combined with Spaghetti Western spoof. There's an important point to be made here, re the Spaghetti Western associations. The greatest exponent of this style was Serge Leone - his stories (beautifully shot and scripted) had SUBTEXT. Mr Leone despised the greedy and the strong who suppressed the weak/poor - if you watch his Fistful of Dynamite you will see him at his most polemic. Quentin Tarantino doesn't know what subtext is - he confuses it with style. He's a movie brat, like most of us 🙂

Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction defined a new genre but his other movies suck 🙂

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Ray

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Posted : 12/02/2004 12:27 am
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You are aware that 'Reservoir Dogs' is basically a remake of the last third of 'City on Fire' with some 'Repo-Man'-style snappy dialogue, a few flashbacks and the ear-cutting scene, right?

Better movie than 'City on Fire', IMHO, but that still doesn't excuse Tarantino's lack of creativity.

 
Posted : 19/02/2004 1:00 pm
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are we talking films Tarantino directed, acted in or write the screen play?
I watched True Romance again last night and i still like that movie.?:)?

 
Posted : 20/02/2004 4:28 pm
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I wonder if Tarantino read sid field?

 
Posted : 20/02/2004 5:20 pm
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Tarantino is amazing. He has a talent for dialogue which allows him to concentrae and work with other aspect of his films mwithout sacrifice. His plots are simple which allows him to work with time, music etc. and it's not hard to follow. Tarantino is my favorite director. I know everything about him. He's awesome

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Posted : 20/02/2004 6:56 pm
 Ray
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No I hadn't realized that RD was a remake of another movie. Maybe it was a Burton-style "reimagining" 😉

I'll check out Repo Man.

Tarantino leaves me all confused - his dialogue is fun, his direction and editing are good but I always come away from his films feeling somewhat conned? Jackie Brown lacks any vitality, it's almost as dead as De Niro's performance. Kill Bill is a B movie that has bad structure and uneven mix of styles. RD is marred by Tim Roth's bad accent and acting; and don't forget the superfluous ear cutting scene.

Heck I think Jaws is a better movie than any of QT's efforts - including the rubber shark (better than Roth's performane anyway).

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Posted : 21/02/2004 8:42 pm
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Ray- to say that Kill Bill is a "B movie" that has "bad structure", that it has an "uneven mix of styles", to say that JB lacks vitality, and to say that you feel "conned" when going to the movies and seeing a film by Quentin Tarantino only says that you can't comprehend a simple plot with a couple different distorted sense of time. Quentin Tarantino "owns" his films. The film doesn't own him like many filmmakers film's.

 
Posted : 22/02/2004 5:51 am
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Hang on, Ray i'm a grammar-ass:

Ray- to say that Kill Bill is a "B movie" that has "bad structure", that it has an "uneven mix of styles", to say that JB lacks vitality, and to say that you feel "conned" when going to the movies and seeing a film by Quentin Tarantino only says that you can't comprehend a simple plot with a small distorted sense of time. Quentin Tarantino "owns" his films. The film doesn't own him like many filmmakers film's.

 
Posted : 22/02/2004 5:53 am
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quote:


Maybe it was a Burton-style "reimagining"


No, watch the two movies back-to-back: there are some scenes which are almost identical between the two. As I said, 'Reservoir Dogs' did the same story better, but the story is just ripped off from an obscure Hong Kong movie down to entire scenes in places.

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I'll check out Repo Man.


I hadn't realised how much of Tarantino's 'trademark' dialog in 'Pulp Fiction' was obviously 'inspired' by 'Repo Man' until I watched it again recently for the first time in years. It probably ought to be retitled 'Gangsta Man'.

(Not to mention the obvious reference to the movie with the glowing suitcase... AFAIR Roger Avary said something about that in an interview I read)

 
Posted : 22/02/2004 1:53 pm
 Ray
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...and of course there's nothing wrong in ripping off someone else's story. For example, A Fistful of Dollars and Yojimbo or the Magnificent 7 and the 7 Samurai. I suppose it's how a lot of movies get made. Of course you can nick plots from books and other media. Fair enoughski.

However, regarding films with simple plotlines - A Fistful of Dynamite has an incredibly simple plotline but lots of subtext. Kill Bill has a simple plotline and no subtext. It's a dead movie. It's pushing up the the daisies mate 😉 I've seen the movie and apparently it has lots of references to other movies but I don't watch that many low budget martial arts movies (actually I did, my brother is way into them). The point is, lots of injokes do not a deep movie make.

Okay, Kill Bill is better than say Lost in Space but that's saying nothing. A simple plot need not make a movie simple-minded. Kill Bill is simple minded.

Ray

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Posted : 23/02/2004 1:29 pm
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Ray- don't talk about Kill Bill. The movie isn't complete yet (it is, just not released).

Don't say that Tarantino rips off his plot lines. Take Reservoir Dogs- The whole thing is about robbing a bank. Do you know how many movies are based around bank robberies? He may have been inspired by a few old Japanese films, but don't say his plot lines are ripped off. That would be like saying the movie Free Willy was ripped off the TV show Flipper.

Tarantino has subtext up his ass. His movies aren't extensively thought out in some aspects but look at his camera angles, look at how he shoots things. Look at the "mis en scen" (i think that's how it's spelled). Any good filmmaker can put subtext into dialogue, the great filmmakers can write dilaogue without subtext but put it in the atmoshpere.

 
Posted : 23/02/2004 7:55 pm
 Ray
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Fairenoughski (good world that).

I'll start studying Quentin's ass to see if I can find any subtext..er that came out the wrong way. Drat, I'm digging a hole for myself 😉

Seriously though I'll lay off Kill Bill until the next release and I'll revisit his movies - what a chore, having to watch RD, PF and JB all in the name of research!

No probs.

Ray

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Posted : 23/02/2004 9:34 pm
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