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(@new-spark-films)
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Hello, this is my first post. Technically I'm not new to filmmaking, I've made films before, but nothing good. Recently I had a renewed interest in filmmaking after a long time where I had forgotten how much I loved making movies. I had a few questions to ask:

By the way, keep in mind, I am 13, so I don't have much money.

1. I know this has been answered a MILLION times, but I need a good camera. I now have a Panasonic PV-GS36, but obviously I need an upgrade because 1. No mic input and 2. 1CCD. I really don't have any money to spend but if I could borrow some it would have to be in the under $600 range. Any suggestions?

2. To those of you who made movies when you were 13, how did you get money for them? I have a decent script, but I don't know who would take me seriously enough to lend me money/equipment because of my age.

3. Would it be better to shoot in black and white or just add a greyscale filter in post?

4. Is Vegas a good editing program? I downloaded a trial, and it seems to work well for the price.

5. Do you need a tripod specific to video, or will any work?

 
Posted : 02/08/2007 4:21 am
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Welcome to Filmmaking.net!

1. Check these threads:
http://www.filmmaking.net/fnetforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6195
http://www.filmmaking.net/fnetforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4527
http://www.filmmaking.net/fnetforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4479
http://www.filmmaking.net/fnetforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4183
http://www.filmmaking.net/fnetforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4555
http://www.filmmaking.net/fnetforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4586

2. I started at 12. And that was back when we shot on film - Super 8. It cost $6.32 (a figure tattooed on my brain) for 3 minutes of film. So forgive me for saying how EASY you teenagers have it now. A miniDV tape, which will give you one hour of footage costs $4.00

The only people who will take you seriously enough to lend you the money you need are friends and family. You're going to have to ask them. How much money do you need?

3. I don't think any under $600 video camera will shoot in black and white. I think they all shoot in color and then you take the color out in post production.

4. I'll let someone else answer. I'm an Apple user. Their free program iMove HD is amazing.

3. When using a camera that weighs under 12 pounds almost any tripod will work fine.

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Posted : 02/08/2007 5:34 am
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3. Even if the camera you have has a black and white setting, you're still recording in colour and the camera is applying the effect digitally afterwards. You'll have more control over the black and white effect if you leave it till post production.

4. Vegas is excellent. Well priced and has all the assets that the more expensive suites have. Definately up there with the best editors for PC imo.

5. As with most equipment, you can get by shooting your film on a twenty quid tripod made for a digital stills. With enough skill you can get some great looking video. High end equipment will make it easier for you to get great looking video, simple as that. Any tripod is better than no tripod (if the shot needs a tripod, that is). Have a look around for the heaviest, meanest looking cheapo you can find.

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Posted : 02/08/2007 10:07 am
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Thank you for your advice.

 
Posted : 02/08/2007 1:36 pm
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Hey there,

I'm 14 but i started filmmaking when I was about 11 or 12.

2. I don't need money whne I make movies, lol, I got a way to get almost everything for free(no, not stealing). Probally the best source for any sets of stuff like that is a building site, they always got extra wood,pipes, and other stuff. And I live behind a park so the people who work there sometimes have extra parts of something that I can use. In winter I go around shoveling snow and get about 5 buck a driveway for that. Where I live DV tape costs like 10 dollers. So really all you have to do is improvise.

4. I have Vegas and its one of the best editing software for PC.
5. Yeah any tripod will work.

H.A.

 
Posted : 02/08/2007 4:29 pm
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i just bought vegas and every 2 secs. like 5 frames drop when i capture video!
i tryed turning off the audio and video preview (which it told me to) but it still didnt work..

Help?

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"They say a picture is worth a thousand words. But a film? Well, thats worth a thousand pictures."-(Own3d Studios)-
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Posted : 03/08/2007 2:48 am
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I will consider that when looking for editing programs. I had another question: is the Canon ZR800 a good beginner's camera? It's miniDV and it has a microphone input, and also it's very cheap.

 
Posted : 03/08/2007 2:55 am
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Hi new spark.

First of all congrats into getting into this at such a young and influential age.

Secondly instead of spending the cash straight off bat, why dont you try and borrow one. you only really need a cheap family one in the beginning to work out all the shots and what looks good on film. then when youve got confidence enough look into buying one.

Its just in my opinion ive seen quite a few people buying them/spending lots and then being stuck for what to shoot. dont get me wrong though. film as much as you can, just try not to let the money side rule things too much for you. Also for what youre diong you MAY be able to input your mic into computer or laptop. Or better still try and find someone with a DAT machine. Hope that helps a little

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Posted : 05/08/2007 4:10 am
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Originally posted by New Spark Films

I will consider that when looking for editing programs. I had another question: is the Canon ZR800 a good beginner's camera? It's miniDV and it has a microphone input, and also it's very cheap.


That camera has only one, very small (1/6 inch) CCD so it doesn't meet my minimum requirement. If that's all you can afford then you should get it right away and start making movies. There is SO much more to making a movie than the camera. Scheduling cast and crew, working with cast and crew, lighting and sound are all aspect you need to start working on so you can go from, "I've made films before, but nothing good." to, "I'm really proud of this!"

If you make one short film a month for the next 6 months with the ZR800, you will be a much better movie maker in February than if you don't make any movies while you save up for a better camera.

Go for it!

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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

 
Posted : 08/08/2007 3:31 am
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Thank you. In fact I plan to begin shooting a short film (no dialogue) on my PV-GS36 next sunday. I will work my way up, but it is good to just start making movies and work around the obstacles.

 
Posted : 08/08/2007 4:49 am
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Most of the cameras in the $600 range are going to be one ccd.

If i remember right the next step up is cmos (sony prosumer mainly) /3ccd.

As i said before get most things in place, if its just a short you may be able to hire one just for a day or two, saving quite a lot. You will probably need an adult to do this for insurance purposes.

In the meantime though use the basic camera just to get an idea of the basic shots that youll be using. Its a good learning curve doing this as you can practise wide astablishing shots, mid shots, revers, colse ups etc.

Always bear in mind though that the better the camera doesnt always mean the shots will be better, a lot of it is down to techniques and ease of use.

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Posted : 08/08/2007 1:37 pm
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