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 Tron
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Film is like gold to me, and the local Public Access Stations lends out quality video equipment to members, and I'm a member, so I figured I could use video tape.
I mean, you can reuse it until it starts to warp, and then it's typically copied to DVD or VHS.
So, is it okay for Mr. No-budget (me) to use video tape with the purpose of submitting it to a film festival?

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Posted : 21/12/2004 10:47 pm
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You'll need to check the requirements of each festival. Some allow you to shoot and submit on tape, some do not.

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Posted : 22/12/2004 3:13 am
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Alright, thanks.

Lemme ask somethin else, too. I'm far, far away from post-production stuff, but I'd still like to know for future reference.
How the hell do I set up a DV projector? I bet they're expensieve...

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Posted : 22/12/2004 6:18 am
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They can be but theyve come down alot in price for the consumer market, they project a video image onto a screen, dont ask me how they work, something to do with mixing light i believe.

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Posted : 22/12/2004 9:24 am
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Most festivals will accept DV movies these days: it's generally only the ones with a big stick up their butt that would refuse.

Certainly it'll be far better for you to shoot movies on DV than to not shoot movies at all, if those are the choices available.

 
Posted : 22/12/2004 2:28 pm
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Tron - setting up a video projector is as easy as hooking up you DVD player to the projector, turning it on, aiming it at the screen, setting the focus and hitting ?play?.

They are pretty expensive to own. If you really need one for a screening there are many places that rent them for the day.

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it's generally only the ones with a big stick up their butt that would refuse.


MarkG - I ran a Super8 festival for 6 years. Our requirements were to only show films shot and projected on Super8. I never thought I might be perceived as having a stick up my butt for refusing to show these films on DV.

I was recently a judge at a festival that was promoting black and white film. Their requirements were that the films were shot and projected on any B&W film stock. They narrowed down the submissions as a way of showcasing a particular medium.

I am currently on the selection committee of a festival that is only looking at submissions shot on film as a way of narrowing down sheer volume of DV movies submitted. They see it as leveling the playing field a bit. That way a filmmaker who made a 16mm feature for $10,000 isn?t competing with a filmmaker who made a DV feature for the same amount.

I?m wondering if you should take a look at the different requirements of different festivals before you assume that only festivals with sticks up their butts ask that people submit their movies on film.

I do, however, agree with your fine advice that shooting on anything, is better than not shooting at all.

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Posted : 22/12/2004 5:03 pm
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Well, super-8 is different. The kind of festivals I was talking about are the ones that have the 'we only show movies made on silver, not movies made on rust, because all video movies suck' attitude... and there seem to be quite a few of them.

"That way a filmmaker who made a 16mm feature for $10,000 isn?t competing with a filmmaker who made a DV feature for the same amount."

Why should that matter? Unless you're running a festival devoted to $10k movies, surely you're looking for the best movies, regardless of what they were shot on. Why would you refuse to even consider a great DV movie and show an average film movie instead?

Frankly, I see just as many crap shorts at festivals shot on 16mm or 35mm film as I do crap shorts shot on DV. In fact, it may be more, since film shorts are probably more likely to be made by film students who don't know what they're doing.

 
Posted : 22/12/2004 5:11 pm
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Understood, Mark.

I just wanted to point out that there are many reasons for asking that projects be shot and submitted on film. Not all of them are because the festival organizers think video sucks.

There are a lot of DV festivals that I - a guy making movies on film - cannot enter. For me, it?s nice to compete on an even keel. Isn?t that why there are so many DV only festivals? Not because those people think film sucks - but because that want a fair playing field.

I do see your point - there are some festival organizers who are jerks. I only took issue with your portrayal that "generally" festivals who ask for film submissions have a stick up their butt. I know of several who do not.

RJ

After I posted I saw your edit:

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Why should that matter? Unless you're running a festival devoted to $10k movies, surely you're looking for the best movies, regardless of what they were shot on. Why would you refuse to even consider a great DV movie and show an average film movie instead?


We are looking for movies shot and submitted on film regardless of budget. We feel there are a lot of filmmakers out there with different reasons for using what they use. Here in Los Angeles there are 8 different festivals showcasing movies shot on DV. We wanted to try something different.

I suppose there are many people who think we have a stick up our butt, or have something against DV. I hadn't considered that until reading your post. I hope you are in the minority and people see it as something positive and not restrictive.

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Posted : 22/12/2004 5:22 pm
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Thanks a lot for the suggestions, I just hope this all goes smoothly.

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Posted : 29/12/2004 10:49 pm
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