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Historical Audio Recording onto Optical Film

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(@10feettall)
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I understand at one point playing back audio from optical film was the thing to do - but how was is recorded there in the first place?

Was it practice to record separately, then onto optical film in the studio - when the film was mastered for release?

Or was audio recorded at the same time as image right onto the same film? ie did someone with the camera also wander around with a mic attached?

Advice would be appreciated 🙂

 
Posted : 19/09/2006 2:24 am
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Hard for me to believe that recording sound on tape is considered historical - but I guess it is.

Okay, let's go back to the old days of pre 1990 - for films shot on 16mm or 35mm all audio is recorded on a separate recorder - typically 1/4 inch reel to reel tape, usually a Nagra. http://www.nagraaudio.com/pro/index.php

The tape was then transferred to "full coat" - 16mm or 35mm perforated films stock that is coated with oxide (like standard audio tape) which was used for editing on a flatbed. http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail01.asp?productID=453&Cat=6

It was only after the final mix was done that the tracks were mastered to an optical track for the release prints.

Even today, audio is recorded seperatly and not directly to the film. That is one of the two functions of the "slate" or "clapper board" - to set a sync mark for editing.

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Posted : 19/09/2006 5:22 am
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Is it possible that there was a news-gathering camera from the 1940's/50's that recorded an optical track directly to the negative, or did I dream that?

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Posted : 19/09/2006 6:31 pm
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Nope, you didn't dream it. The Auricon 16mm Sound-on-Film cameras were manufactured from 1933 to the 1990s. These cameras may be set up to record a Photographic Soundtrack on the edge of 1R stock, and many were designed to record magnetic sound on (long discontinued) prestriped film. Even Arriflex made cameras that could use 1R stock.

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Posted : 19/09/2006 6:44 pm
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🙂 Thanks for the replies! Questions answered and some info to follow up - cool

 
Posted : 19/09/2006 11:05 pm
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