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(@15filmakernyc)
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Quick question: What do they use to make actors fly in movies? I think its wires, but i'm wondering if there is a specific name for it and if i can buy it? If not what is an alternative to make them fly?

 
Posted : 17/04/2007 10:21 pm
(@davidallensmith)
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Green screen

 
Posted : 17/04/2007 11:09 pm
(@15filmakernyc)
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i know they put the actors behind green screen. i want to know where they get the wires that hold them up.

 
Posted : 18/04/2007 12:50 am
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You will need much more than a few wires. But if all you're interested in are wires, try break cable for bicycles.

"They" use a flying harness supported by very strong steel wires on a complicated pulley system on a sturdy truss grid with plenty of safety checks built in. These wires aren't an item you pick up at a local store or on a website. These wires, harnesses and pulley systems are usually custom made.

You can contact Roger George Special Effects, Special Effects Unlimited, Aerial Rigging, Inc. and the very best in the business, Flying by Foy if you're serious about a quote.

Think less about the wires that hold them up and more about what you are going to attach those wires to. Do you have all that figured out?

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Posted : 18/04/2007 1:26 am
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i don't have that figured out yet. i'm mostly just curious. seems very complicated, i work with a film company and they could help me but i think i'll just put the actor on something and shoot as best as i can on green screen.

 
Posted : 18/04/2007 10:44 am
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You could also go oldstyle and have your actors on a green table (or floor) in front of a greenscreen.

In the old days, science fiction spaceships were hung sideways or upside down and the camera tilted accordingly because people are looking for wires above the ship not to the side or below. This can be done with flying as well.

For example. Have your actor stand ontop of the greenscreen table (or floor for that matter) and look up as if flying level. Then the camera can circle around them, perhaps even go in front of them (if you have a ladder/platform/whatever and the room's walls are greenscreen color of course). You are only limited from going beneath (which is an akward shot anyway as you would normally see the bottoms of the feet. If the wind machines are blowing correctly a cape would billow in all directions leaving the audience wondering where the wires are.

Cheap, safe, effective, although too much movement might be hard to handle when you drop the background into the greenscreen.

RJSchwarz
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Posted : 18/04/2007 4:42 pm
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Excellent, RJ!

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Posted : 18/04/2007 5:33 pm
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Thanks, it's that kind of mental challenge that can make filmmaking fun. It won't work for a fight (really want experts and proper equipment for that) but it should work for most flying.

RJSchwarz
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Posted : 18/04/2007 6:37 pm
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