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(@kefka296)
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Hello, Just want to state I have read the FAQ and have done searches on this issue.
The question is that for the film i want to do, and the budget i have DV is going to be the best route. And after all my findings the DV cameras such as the Canon XL2 still mention broadcast. Is this still a simple broadcast, TV quility camera. Or can I acctually shoot somthing with this for a feature film, and have it up on the big screen looking clean and sharp.
Really what im asking is, can these DV cameras fight agaisnt 16mm?
Thank you very much in advance.

 
Posted : 14/01/2005 10:58 am
(@markg)
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Or can I acctually shoot somthing with this for a feature film, and have it up on the big screen looking clean and sharp.


No. But it won't look totally horrid, either, just soft.

As for 16mm, it all depends on your budget... the five minute 16mm short I made a couple of years ago ended up costing about $5000, most of which was the costs of hiring a camera, buying film, processing it, negative cutting and getting a print. If you've got a million dollars to spend then the extra cost of film over DV won't make that much difference, if you've got a thousand dollars to spend you can't even think about shooting film unless you can get it for free.

 
Posted : 14/01/2005 11:04 am
(@elipses)
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DV is good, film is better. The only time you will feel the difference is when you project it on a large screen. It's a matter of relative resolution. DV simply does not stand-up to film when projecting. With that in mind, you can shoot on DV and transfer the final cut to 35mm if you feel the film could really go places. A few 24p cameras (DVX-100, XL2) deliver a reasonable image when comapring to 16mm. I have found that most of the time money can be better spent in areas that do not relate to film-stock.
28 Days Later, Open Water, Dancer in the Dark, all shot on DV and transfered to 35mm afterwards.
Watch them again and imagine the possibilities.

Elipses

Elipses

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Posted : 14/01/2005 3:37 pm
(@kefka296)
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that was what i was thinking. I would shoot this film on DV, and transfer to 16-32mm. If that is done, it can still stand up to other big movies?
As well, are there any links on shooting AND editing DV. Main qustion I am wondering about editing DV on a computer is how much space it takes up. I know for my Digital Hi-8 camera it takes up a good amount in its quility. But how much would a DV camera take up?
Thanks alot for your knolledge

 
Posted : 16/01/2005 12:19 am
(@onixoforin)
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Originally posted by Elipses

A few 24p cameras (DVX-100, XL2) deliver a reasonable image when comapring to 16mm.


does this change with Black and White? That is, do you think you get an image that is more reasonably close to 16mm with a B&W film or a color film? do you think that makes a difference?

 
Posted : 16/01/2005 8:40 pm
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B&W video will at times appear more like 16mm film than colour video. That said, colour video can still look very good if it is desaturated slightly. If you would like to see a quick example of reasonably good colour dv check www.handheldonline.ca and the "No Footsteps To follow" music video on the site. We shot on the DVX-100 and used some mild desaturation in post. It isn't film but it looks alright. Judge for yourself.

P.S (be sure to "right-click" the file formatt and "save as target"
or "save link as target". if you try and "double-click" the the icon the video will not load.)

Elipses

Elipses

 
Posted : 21/01/2005 3:46 pm
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