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Digital Filmmaking - Is it Mainstream Nowadays?

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(@momo3)
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In high school I was very much into film. Ever since I've been dreaming about doing a film, but have been hesitant to shoot it on 16mm.

I've been wondering -- Can digital now look just like film? Is it true that movies such as Napolean Dynamite were done on digital ? Or were they just transferred to digital and edited on the computer?

If digital can indeed now look just like film, what software and cameras are required for this?

thx

 
Posted : 12/01/2008 11:02 pm
(@henry701)
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Digital can never look exactly like film, but it can be tweeked to almost look like it. There are a wide range of products that do this, and all are at diffrent prices. Theres the fxhome series with visionLab and so on. Theres After Effects, which is way more professional and I would recomend and lots more.

"Imperfection equals Realism"

 
Posted : 13/01/2008 12:36 am
(@momo3)
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Are there any feature films that have been shot digitally?

 
Posted : 13/01/2008 1:41 am
(@rjschwarz)
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Sin City, and the three new Star Wars movies were shot with very high end expensive digital. That's probably not what we're talking about here though.

28 Days Later and a few others were shot with prosumer level digital cameras independent filmmakers commonly use.

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Posted : 13/01/2008 2:08 am
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Originally posted by Momo3

Are there any feature films that have been shot digitally?


Here is a partial list:
In Standard definition:
Inland Empire, Sony PD-150
Open Water, Sony PD-150
The Anniversary Party, Sony DSR-500
The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, Canon XL-1
28 Days Later, Canon XL-1S
Pieces of April, Sony PD-150
Bamboozled, Sony VX 1000 PAL
Book Of Life, Sony VX1000 (NTSC)
The Celebration, Sony PC7 PAL
Chuck & Buck, Sony VX1000 PAL
The Cruise, Sony VX1000 NTSC
Dancer In The Dark, Sony PD 100 & Sony DXC D30WS PAL
Everything Put Together, Sony VX1000 PAL
Final, Canon XL-1 PAL
Chelsea Walls, Sony PD100 PAL
Full Frontal, Canon XL1s PAL
Hotel, Sony PD 100 & PD150 PAL
Julien Donkey Boy, Canon XL1 PAL
Time Code, Sony DSR-1
Supersize Me, Sony PD150
Lonesome Jim, Panasonic DVX 100
November, Panasonic DVX 100

In High Defination:
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi Channel series) Panavised Sony HDW-F900s
Borat... - Panasonic Varicam
Broken English - Viper
Bubble (2006) Camera: Sony HDW-F900
Chrome (2006)
Click (2006) - Panavision Genesis Digital Camera
Collateral (2004) Vipers, F900s, Panaflex 35 mm (Vision 5279, Vision2 5218 stock) - Oscar nom for Cinematography
Crank - Sony F950
Dogville (2003) Camera: Sony HDW-F900, Canon Zoom Lens
Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex, Drugs and Rock 'N' Roll Generation Saved Hollywood (2003)
Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004) (1080p/24)
Flyboys (2006) - Panavision Genesis Digital Camera
Grind House (2007) - Panavision Genesis Digital Camera
Miami Vice (2006) - Thompson Viper and Sony HDW-F900s
Quincea?era (2006) Camera: Sony HDW-F900
Scary Movie 4 (2006) - Camera: Panavision Genesis
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004) Camera: Sony HDW-F900, Fujinon Lenses
Spy Kids 2: Island of Lost Dreams (2002) Camera: Sony HDW-F900 (modified by Panavision)
Superman (2006) - Panavision Genesis (1080p/24)
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) Camera: Sony HDW-F900 (modified by Panavision)
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2006) (1080p/24) (4:4:4 RGB)
Youth without Youth (2007) - Sony HDC F950
Zodiac (2006) - Camera: Viper Film stream

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Posted : 13/01/2008 2:23 am
(@momo3)
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Ok thanks for the list.

What sorts of software are used to do the after effects on these?

 
Posted : 14/01/2008 4:07 pm
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I would recommend After Effects.

"Imperfection equals Realism"

 
Posted : 15/01/2008 12:01 am
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digital shooting is getting more and more standard.
finally the cameras are becoming good enough to have a decent luminance range.
however even the latest high end digital camera equipment lacks some of the fidelity film offers.
but take a look at the red camera and the soon upcoming 4k ones from other vendors like sony etc. and it gets damn
close to film....

on short term all will be digital. there is no way around it anymore.
the cameras finally will catch up on film.
it is way cheaper to shoot. the post is digital already since many years and currently theatres are
converting to digital projection.
a good dop knows the pitfalls of digital shooting and knows how to avoid them.
the above goes mainly for high end cams.

the consumer and prosumer cameras - while very decent in quality and sensitivity - are far away from film and they need special attention during shooting and
the footage needs more touch up to make it look better than the professional stuff.

as of software:
editing:
avid, final cut pro, adobe premiere
compositing/fx:
shake,fusion, nuke,afterfx,toxik,flame,inferno
I recommend flowgraph based soft.
the ones mostly used on high profile shows are shake,inferno/flame,fusion and nuke, occasionally afterfx. toxik is quite new.
3d:
maya,softimage,houdini,max,lightwave, cinema 4d here and there
blender is free but hardly used professionally....
vue and bryce are sometimes used for landscape matte paintings...
grading/DI:
davinci,baselight/filmlight,lustre,scratch,iQ/eQ/pablo,digital vision
audio:
protools,logic,cubase,nuendo,soundforge

 
Posted : 15/01/2008 1:08 pm
(@momo3)
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My friend has an XL1. Is this still a good camera?

 
Posted : 15/01/2008 6:03 pm
(@matmilne)
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digital formats are standard in a lot of theatres, and that number is growing and will continue to grow. It also makes it a lot easier to edit and otherwise work with.

I work solely in digital video formats.

 
Posted : 16/01/2008 7:31 pm
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