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(@gskowal)
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Hey guys I?m trying to read about different cameras... There is so many different types with different specifications..
my question is..

What type of cameras are used today to make Hollywood movies? Are some Hollywood movie makers using any lower budget Cameras (up to $4000 type of cameras)? When i see some behind the movie clips, i see them using some HUGE FILM CAMERAS. Why do they use Film cameras? Aren?t those HD expensive cameras better? anybody knows what cameras were used filming some of my favorite movies like, Fight CLub, Se7en, Garden State, Snatch , Aviator ?
Can you actually make a Hollywood looking movie with a 4000$ camera? like DVX100 ? or will it be obvious by a viewer that its a different quality movie? I know there is bunch of editing FX that can do crazy stuff, but still, what about if one uses lighting, good locations and filters? is it possible?
I?m such a newbie ! 🙂 please help

 
Posted : 26/09/2006 5:47 am
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Originally posted by gskowal
What type of cameras are used today to make Hollywood movies? Are some Hollywood movie makers using any lower budget Cameras (up to $4000 type of cameras)?


Typically movies are shot using 35mm film. The two most used cameras are Panavision and Arriflex. Yes, some Hollywood movie makers are using smaller, cheaper cameras. David Lynch shot his most recent movie with the Sony PD-150.

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When i see some behind the movie clips, i see them using some HUGE FILM CAMERAS. Why do they use Film cameras? Aren?t those HD expensive cameras better?


No. Film is currently "better" then HD. But it's a choice the filmmaker makes. Some, like Rodriguez and Lucas, prefer HD. Some prefer to shoot film.

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anybody knows what cameras were used filming some of my favorite movies like, Fight CLub, Se7en, Garden State, Snatch , Aviator ?


Fight Club, Seven, Garden State and The Aviator were shot with Panavision cameras and lenses using Super 35. Snatch was shot with Arriflex camera and lenses using 35mm

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Can you actually make a Hollywood looking movie with a 4000$ camera? like DVX100 ? or will it be obvious by a viewer that its a different quality movie? I know there is bunch of editing FX that can do crazy stuff, but still, what about if one uses lighting, good locations and filters? is it possible?


Yes. It's possible. But it isn't the camera or the editing fx or the filters that make the image look good. It's the skill and experience of the crew. But digital video is very different than film, so there will be a difference.

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Posted : 26/09/2006 7:40 am
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Thank you for the reply. So you're saying there will be a big difference between film and digital? Can a normal viewer sitting in a movie theater spot a difference? Is it a difference in colors, quality of image, or the whole look of it?
Are there any hollywood movies shot with a digital camera? or is Digital only being used for documentaries and life news type of tv?

 
Posted : 26/09/2006 2:44 pm
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Originally posted by gskowal

Thank you for the reply. So you're saying there will be a big difference between film and digital?


Yes.

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Can a normal viewer sitting in a movie theater spot a difference?


In general I'd say yes.

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Is it a difference in colors, quality of image, or the whole look of it?


All the above.

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Are there any hollywood movies shot with a digital camera? or is Digital only being used for documentaries and life news type of tv?


Here are a few of the movies that got theatrical release using DV. I didn't include any of the big budget HD features.

FILM: Open Water
DIRECTOR: Chris Kentis
FORMAT/CAMERA: Sony PD-150

FILM: The Anniversary Party
DIRECTOR: Alan Cumming/Jennifer Jason Leigh
FORMAT/CAMERA: Sony DSR-500

FILM: The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra
DIRECTOR: Larry Blamire
FORMAT/CAMERA: Canon XL-1

FILM: 28 Days Later
DIRECTOR: Danny Boyle
FORMAT/CAMERA: Canon XL-1S

FILM: Pieces of April
DIRECTOR: Peter Hegdes
FORMAT/CAMERA: Sony PD-150

FILM: Bamboozled
DIRECTOR: Spike Lee
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Sony VX 1000 PAL

FILM: Book Of Life
DIRECTOR: Hal Hartley
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - VX1000 (NTSC)

FILM: The Celebration
DIRECTOR: Thomas Vinterberg
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Sony PC7 PAL

FILM: The Chateau
DIRECTOR: Jesse Peretz
FORMAT/CAMERA: Sony TRV 900 PAL

FILM: Chuck & Buck
DIRECTOR: Miguel Arteta
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Sony VX1000 PAL

FILM: The Cruise
DIRECTOR: Bennett Miller
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Sony VX1000 NTSC

FILM: Dancer In The Dark
DIRECTOR: Lars Von Trier
FORMAT/CAMERA: DVCAM - Sony PD 100 & Sony DXC D30WS PAL
BUDGET: $12,500,000

FILM: Everything Put Together
DIRECTOR: Marc Forster
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Sony VX1000 PAL
BUDGET: $500,000

FILM: Final
DIRECTOR: Campbell Scott
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Canon XL-1 PAL
BUDGET: $80,000

FILM: Chelsea Walls
DIRECTOR: Ethan Hawke
FORMAT/CAMERA: DVCAM - Sony PD100 PAL

FILM: Full Frontal
DIRECTOR: Steven Soderbergh
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV ? Canon XL1s PAL
NOTES: Edited on Final Cut Pro
BUDGET: $2,000,000

FILM: Hotel
DIRECTOR: Mike Figgis
FORMAT/CAMERA: DVCAM - Sony PD 100 & PD150 PAL

FILM: The Idiots
DIRECTOR: Lars Von Trier
FORMAT/CAMERA: DigiBeta

FILM: Julien Donkey Boy
DIRECTOR: Harmony Korine
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV ? Canon XL1 PAL; 8 other cameras

FILM: The Last Broadcast
DIRECTORS: Stephan Avalos & Lance Weiler
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - VX1000 NTSC and other cameras
NOTES: Released via satellite to five cities simultaneously; also released via broadband by The Independent Film Channel; $900 budget

FILM: Time Code
DIRECTOR: Mike Figgis
FORMAT/CAMERA: Sony DSR-1
BUDGET: $4,000,000

FILM: In This World
DIRECTOR: Michael Winterbottom
FORMAT/CAMERA: Sony PD150/Sony PC-9
BUDGET: $1,900,000

FILM: Supersize Me
DIRECTOR: Morgan Spurlock
FORMAT/CAMERA: Sony PD150
BUDGET: $300,000

FILM: Waterborne
DIRECTOR: Ben Rekhi
FORMAT/CAMERA: Panasonic DVX100s
BUDGET: $198,000

FILM: Lonesome Jim
DIRECTOR: Steve Buscemi
FORMAT/CAMERA: Panasonic DVX 100
BUDGET: $500,000

FILM: Party Monster
FORMAT/CAMERA: Canon XL-1

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Posted : 26/09/2006 3:51 pm
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thanks a lot!!!! where do you get all this information from? 🙂

 
Posted : 26/09/2006 5:15 pm
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Originally posted by certified instigator
Here are a few of the movies that got theatrical release using DV. I didn't include any of the big budget HD features.

FILM: Bamboozled
DIRECTOR: Spike Lee
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Sony VX 1000 PAL

FILM: Final
DIRECTOR: Campbell Scott
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV - Canon XL-1 PAL
BUDGET: $80,000

FILM: Chelsea Walls
DIRECTOR: Ethan Hawke
FORMAT/CAMERA: DVCAM - Sony PD100 PAL

FILM: Full Frontal
DIRECTOR: Steven Soderbergh
FORMAT/CAMERA: MiniDV ? Canon XL1s PAL
NOTES: Edited on Final Cut Pro
BUDGET: $2,000,000

FILM: Hotel
DIRECTOR: Mike Figgis
FORMAT/CAMERA: DVCAM - Sony PD 100 & PD150 PAL


Just curious, why would some of these filmmakers shoot with PAL cameras, if they're primarily US filmmakers. Not that there's anything wrong with PAL, I'm just curious why they would choose it.

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Posted : 17/10/2006 4:06 am
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They knew the movies were going to be transfered to 35mm film for theatrical release. PAL records at 25fps, NTSC at 29.97fps and at higher resolution. When these movies were made the cameras (VX, XL-1, PD100, PD150) didn't have 24fps capabilities.

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Posted : 17/10/2006 7:03 am
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Also, PAL has an extra 100 lines of vertical resolution, and when you're shooting DV for a cinema release you need every line you can get.

 
Posted : 17/10/2006 11:17 am
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Originally posted by certified instigator

They knew the movies were going to be transfered to 35mm film for theatrical release. PAL records at 25fps, NTSC at 29.97fps and at higher resolution. When these movies were made the cameras (VX, XL-1, PD100, PD150) didn't have 24fps capabilities.


That was a great list of the kit used on the lower budget films, but where did you find those details CI?

Steve

 
Posted : 17/10/2006 2:23 pm
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