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No too long ago, during an era I call "late 2006", I created a 10 minute short for one course movie production class. It was a horrific time. I'll recap the entire event by taking selection from a blog I made during that era--I apologize if this selection is a little on the long side and typo'd (though I fix some), but I think it conveys what I was feeling at the time and the problems with it.


...As with most things in a 20-somethings life, it started out in a college classroom. I was to make a 10 minute film in my video media class. My concept? A dark comedy about a pretentious film student who's film was so woefully rejected by his teacher and peers, that he wants to commit suicide, but in a clever enough way that people will actually remember. After montage of failed suicide attempts, he gets more depressed and decides to drink himself to death, but in his drunken dream, he meets God who promptly tells him the meaning of life. He wakes up from it, attempting to proclaim it from the streets, but ends up getting dying when a car hits him. It wasn't going to Cannes, but for my first film since the age of ten, it would be fun, ?nice and a great thing to look back on.?

It didn't happen like that. My procrastination kicked it and by week five (?My college? goes by quarters, ie 10 week periods), I only had two pages of this script. I tried to show them to Shaun, my friend and the lead in this film. Sadly, I use a strange format that won't show on his computer. That same day, however, he suggested that we do a serious film noir.

I knew nothing of film noirs beyond Sin City and parodies, but I agreed. Shaun's my friend and I didn't want to pull him into a project he won't be intersted in, plus I didn't feel attached to this script, so I agreed on the exception that we watch some noirs together to get a feel for the genre.

That never happened.

A week later, I had the script. I won't lie, it was crapsterpiece. The female character underdeveloped and all of the other characters was two dimensional (a fact I actually referred to in the script). The ending was clunky too. It was mine though and I loved it just like a mother loves a retarded son.

I'd send a script over, which he'd promptly loose due to the confusion of his household. I gave him some time to look, but soon week eight showed up, so I basically went, emailed the script to myself in various saved formats and printed out more copies of it at ?my college? and sent all five of them to Shaun.

He read it over and suggested some changes I needed to do to it. I was no stranger to his criticism--he was instrumental in helping me with a one act play I had written. Of course, he suggested the one thing I always had trouble with; developing an interesting female character. I'd fix some of the problems, like clunky and/or low-brow phrases. However, I still couldn't bumble * word pad into creating a believable woman with motivation.

Another problem was over the horizon. Actors. Originally, it was going to be me, Shaun and Chazz but since this film was a film noir--I was going to need different actors. Shaun asked me and I dropped a brick. Luckily, I had honesty to back me up. "I don't know as many actors as you do Shaun," I essentially told him, "and outside of this household and the people that show up, I don't have any relations that would be interested." He was irritated, but he agreed to call some people.

It's now week eight. We secured John, Kelli, Shaun and another male who's name escapes me for the project. Despite reading over the new script once and periodically proclaiming "we've done all we can, let's shoot," he still wanted me to turn this female into a character an actress would actually want to play her. I agreed, racking my brain out on how to fix her while fixing various other lines we've discussed.

Week Nine. Time to shoot and we all felt the need to, but there was fundamental problems that kept things from taking off as well as growing irritations with Shaun and Kelli as they started to ask things like "When do we shoot?", "What about our costumes?" and "Where's Lisa's ?the female character? motivation?" The first one was basically unanswerable to a larger extend--I never had made a film as an adult and anything I did suggest would be retorted with "I have work." The second question was easy enough, "We don't have a budget and this is a student film watched by just a few people, so I don't give a rat's ass." They hated the idea and wanted us to spend money we didn't really have. The third one was impossible, as the script--while now mediocre--still didn't provide anyone with anything.

Its two days before it has to be turned in. I couldn't get the locations I need secured fully. I wanted to shoot at this one place, but this was denied to me, so lamely speaking, we shot it at my parents, which I hadn't fulled blocked out in my mind. It was a long, tedious shoot--which isn't uncommon from what I understand. ?I here i?t takes two-three days to make a decent 4 minute music video. Of course, Kelli and Shaun was aggravated with me, with obvious and often vocal thoughts of my incompetence, even though I told them that this is my first film. It take hours, but I got the shots we needed .

On the second day of shooting, Shaun was sick. Out of the question. I was ready to turn it what I had on Monday, but Shaun bounced back and proclaimed that I SHOULD take Monday off and finish this and deliver it on Thursday, I agreed, considering the lenience of my teacher as well as other factors.

On the third day of shooting, we couldn't get the actor that played the drug dealer to come in. I pleaded with near-by friends, whom all said no, so I put myself in the roll despite being more of a comedic type. Kelli would fill in as a camera operator and basically director of this scene between me and Shaun--which she was surprising good at despite her (assumed) first time.

The next part was doozy though. The place I had secured ?omitted? was out of the question and after an attempt to break into my parent's other house--we decided to shoot it in the school parking lot. Tensions were high, but we moved on. The camera's battery was dying, however, as I forgot to charge it, so I was going to take 15 minutes and get it charge. The irony of this though, was that the black box was now free, so I used near-by plug ends and we'd shoot in in there. We got some shots... but we ran out of tape. I went to my car to get an extra emergency tape, but it was at home.

I felt totally defeated. Beaten down. I had failed at a lot of things in my life and I was still falling. It was angry with Shaun, with Kelli, with the no-name that didn't show up. Not with John, though. Shaun started to feel sympathy and bought me a quarter-pounder, which cheered me up a little.

He'd immediately piss me of though. I convened Mom to give me a loan for the after-party as sort of symbolic apology for making them make an awful film. I was basically told to go home and get the tape and come back the next morning, but I need a ten-spot from Andi's purse since I did drive her to work. I pulled up in front of Shaun's and told him to tell Andi's boyfriend to get the ten needed so I could go home and get it. I sat in the car for about ten minutes before I turned off the engine and went inside to see what's what.

I find Shaun, Kelli and John in there opening the bottle of wine I went halfies on for the after-party. I felt betrayed. The very party I was throwing as an apology was being had WITHOUT me, turned around and used as a "f you, incompetent Jake!" party. I stayed at the house anyway in protest. I didn't vocalize anything despite the fact I probably should have, but they knew I was there and they didn't even invite me to my own goddamn party. I spent the rest of the night there, just playing DBZ TB2 and talking with my more thoughtful friends.

The next day--I didn't come back with the day. I did upload it onto the school computer the day after. I have sometime in store for Shaun and Kelli (with apologizes to John, who didn't intentionally do anything except be at the wrong place at the wrong time.)


I go on to vent more of my frustration with the understanding that while "40%-75%" of the sloppy production was my fault, I still angry at them, especially for the whole "party without me." ...and how I might go on to make another movie.

Which leads to this point.

Here I am a year later, with a desire to make another film (be it a short film, a long film or something for the FOX contest on MySpace). I want to dive back into it again, but I'm afraid it might lead to the same situation it did in in late '06. Which leads me to ask a few questions.

If you're the director, the cameraman and the guy that dicks with a tripod--how long should a shot take to step up? How many shots should I take?

How do I calm actors that get frustrated in me 'taking too long'?

...and finally, Should I even RETURN to directing or do I just have all the wrong personality to make movies?

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Posted : 24/09/2007 1:38 pm
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If you're the director, the cameraman and the guy that dicks with a tripod--how long should a shot take to step up?


As long as you need. Not the answer you're looking for, but it's
the only answer I know.

quote:


How many shots should I take?


As many as you need. Not the answer you're looking for, but it's
the only answer I know.

quote:


How do I calm actors that get frustrated in me 'taking too long'?


If you are taking so long to set up shots that your actors get
frustrated, then speed up. Sometimes you need to adjust to the
situation. Making a movie isn't easy and there are know answers
that work for every filmmaker on every project. Respect their
time even if you're frustrated with them.

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Should I even RETURN to directing or do I just have all the wrong personality to make movies?


I don't know the answer. But reading this post I'd say you don't
have the right personality to be a director. I don't know you - I
have only read this post where you vent your frustration. If it's
something you really want to do, you will learn the things needed
and you will get better.

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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

 
Posted : 24/09/2007 6:14 pm
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A lot of directing can be sped up with preplanning. Spend the time to make a shot list, and storyboards accurate enough to show how you want things lit. Then hopefully our camera guy/DP simply makes that happen while you work with the actors on how the scene will be blocked. Even with super budgets and lots of pre-planning a lot of Hollywood directors get a small number of scenes in a given day.

The other thing that comes through in your blog entry is that things happened to you. You as the director make things happen. If your running out of battery power than you screwd up, next time have two batteries and make sure they are charged. Every screwup is a learning experience and you are in charge of what you learn.

Another thing is if Shaun and Kelly are asking questions and are part of the production put them in charge of things. Shaun will be less eager to give you crap for the late start if he's still trying to get the costumes ready, same with Kelly when it comes to organizing the location. Give action items and then clear it or tell them that won't work, that way you don't have to do everything yourself.

When it comes to motivation it's simple. YOu wrote hte script, why did the character do or say something? If you're not sure ask the actor playing the role. Don't show you don't know but ask their opinons, as what they would have done/said. Be willing to adapt a bit or listen to their input if you don't think your own script is gold. Tell them that's good, that's better than I was thinking. How can we expand that. Most actors would gladly help if it increases their own role and helps them with the craft. If they are just saying lines they are not really acting, they do need motivation. Sometimes the motivatin is obvious, other times it is not.

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Posted : 24/09/2007 6:38 pm
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You just received the greatest film education on the planet. Everything went wrong. You can't get this education at USC for $50K a year. Are you still alive? Good...now you understand that until you have a great script...don't shoot! Until you have planned out the shoot...don't shoot. Until you have cast the film with the right people and crew...don't shoot. Failure is education! There are two types of failure...temporary and total. Temporary failure is education if you learn from it and move forward. Total failure is when you quit! Are you going to quit? You'll regret it until the day you die! Learn and move forward. Live to shoot another day! Keep shooting.

 
Posted : 25/09/2007 12:48 am
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After reading over your posts and taking into consideration a few things--I'm going to take another shot at making a movie. Something a little less complex and a tad bit more fun to work on. I already have the first 11 or so pages punched up and if it is a fun to direct it as it is to write it, then I should continue onward.

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Posted : 26/09/2007 10:50 am
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You have a bit of an advantage now, as you write, consider exactly how you want to do shots and how things will work, and which props and locations you know you can get. It'll make things easier later.

Nearly all of the lessons you learned from directing can be applied to the screenplay in some way shape or form so use that.

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Posted : 26/09/2007 2:33 pm
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Excellent decision, CW. Keep us informed on the progress and don't
forget to post a link when your movie is finished.

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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
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Posted : 26/09/2007 6:23 pm
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What is it you hope to achieve by doing these unorganized, undeveloped, unfunded movies? If you ever want to get anywhere with filmmaking, you have many many years of failure and frustration ahead of you. I would sit down and think long and hard about how willing you are to put yourself through that, and make your next step from there.

 
Posted : 30/09/2007 2:02 am
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Actually I think a lot can be learned, about what is going to cut together, about what is required to tell a story visually, and about how to handle the problems of a set in general.

RJSchwarz
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Posted : 30/09/2007 6:20 am
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