Scarface left me disturbed on a deeper level. It wasn't the violence at all. What really bothered me in that story was the tragedy that he brought upon his sister. His own greed and abhorrence for anything "normal" led him to destroying his sister's love and then her life.

On a different kind of scale, the movie "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer" left me quite disturbed in that the documentary/stark style that the movie was created made it quite clear that killers like Henry ARE indeed out there hiding in plain sight.

In the same way, the specific scene in "Training Day" when Denzel leaves his partner alone in the gangster's house to be killed. The troubling part of that sort of scene is that while you know that the movie itself is fictional, you also know on another level that it is all too real, that real people like that do exist.

Most "horror" or shock movies are just superficially "frightening," akin to someone jumping out from behind a corner to say "boo!" The very truly frightening movies are those that are presented in such a realistic manner that you actually FEEL sympathy (or perhaps even empathy if the topic is unfortunately close to home) for one character or another. "Revulsion" isn't necessarily scary unless an otherwise innocent character is affected against their will. That makes the situation and story truly scary.

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Any films where children use foul language.

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Originally posted by EstherRuth

Any films where children use foul language.

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I find this fascinating. Does children use foul language
actual scare you or do you have a moral objection to it?

moonman, when you say you are looking to push the
envelope a bit, what do you mean? It's a term I hear often
but don't quite grasp what it means. What does it mean
to you?

Movies that left me with an uncomfortable feeling after
watching them aren't usually the traditional "horror" film.
I find a good scare like in "Halloween", "Alien", "The Exorcist",
"The Haunting" to be good fun. I'm more like you in that
regard. "Eraserhead", "Cape Fear", "Henry: Portrait of a Serial
Killer", "Rosemary's Baby", "Audition", "Irreversible", "Funny
Games" are the movies that leave me with a very uncomfortable
feeling afterwards.

I suppose I should mention that I'm speaking ONLY of the originals
, not the remakes. I don't see remakes.

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The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.
Joseph Joubert, essayist (1754-1824)

Interesting choices, and to be honest, not what i was expecting at all. I havent seen Henry so i cant comment on that, and i agree that most horrors are superficially frightening, even though they are 99% are not.

Im more interested in areas of the basic human psyche, things which frighten people on a deep level. I find this difficult to put into words
because its a primal thing, like when you have an extreme nightmare that you cant shake off, even though it made no logical sense in the "real world"

I dont know why this interests me, it just does

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Originally posted by certified instigator

?quote?I find this fascinating. Does children use foul language
actual scare you or do you have a moral objection to it?.

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I find it morally objectionable. I guess it's more concern then fear.

Force Yourself

Best jump-out horror films: The Strangers, Quarantine
The sickest gore films: Hostel, Cabin Fever
The downright sickest and horrific abuse drama film: Jack Ketchum's The Girl Next Door
The most haunting or dark child rape film: Mysterious Skin
The most nerve wrecking mind horrors: Signs & The 4th Kind
The darkest, awe-inspiring comedies: Gummo & Welcome To The Dollhouse

I suggest watching all these films to truly get a sense of every kind of 'dark' film, they are all amazing, amazing movies.